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Old 02-16-2006, 03:24 PM   #1
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What is a UTEC? What is an ECUTEK? Are these better or worse than an accessport? If im planning on do some mods to the car, nothing internal for a long time if ever, mostly bolt-ons, which is best? I just need someone to spell it out for me in Layman's terms...im not too fluent with all this stuff yet!

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Old 02-16-2006, 03:28 PM   #2
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:28 PM   #3
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I felt that one coming.
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Old 02-16-2006, 03:44 PM   #4
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Just get an Accessport if you are doing mods over an extended period of time. You can update the Cobb AP with a new map for most of the mods you make. Stage 1 to Stage 2. Stage 2 to stage 2 w/VF39, and so forth.

If you get a UTEC or ECUTEK ECU, you will have to send your ECU to be reflashed or get the ECU retuned for every mod you make.

I am about to have a Prodrive PPP III kit installed. It comes with a Prodrive ECU which is tuned to run the car at stock settings with the addition of the Prodrive uppipe, y-pipe, and turboback. If I decide to add a VF39 turbo or another power mod, I will have to go to Prodrive, or take my Prodrive ECU out and send it to them for a reflash.

That's is why I am buying this kit. It is a pretuned kit. Scooby Sport makes similar power packages. Gruppe-S also sells power packages with Helix parts, but you send in your ECU for an overnight tune. If you look at their sites you might get a better idea of the differences between stage 1, 2, etc.

You might want to consider just saving money for a package deal. It can save you money and you can have the parts installed all at the same time. The kits have a set whp rating over stock and if you decide to part out later, you have a brand name kit.

Most stage II kits are rated to give approximately the same hp increase for the money. Search, search, search, before you buy. I got an insane deal on my kit and people are parting out all the time.

I hope this helps.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:40 PM   #5
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:44 PM   #6
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ignor jonny b!

go for the ecutek map and get it set up on a dyno by a profesional mapper, this is the ONLY safe way to get the full potential out of your car generic (off the shelf) maps are at best conservative and at worst terminal for your engine (read as BANG!)
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:48 PM   #7
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ignor jonny b!

go for the ecutek map and get it set up on a dyno by a profesional mapper, this is the ONLY safe way to get the full potential out of your car generic (off the shelf) maps are at best conservative and at worst terminal for your engine (read as BANG!)
utec and the AP can be custom tuned on a dyno.
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Old 02-18-2006, 12:50 PM   #8
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utec and the AP can be custom tuned on a dyno.
never said it couldnt i just used ecutek as we dont get the others on this side of the pond and i wont recomend what i dont know! but as long as its a good remap done on a dyno by someone who knows his stuff (or her) its all good
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If I decide to add a VF39 turbo or another power mod, I will have to go to Prodrive, or take my Prodrive ECU out and send it to them for a reflash.
IIRC the "Prodrive ECU" is actually a stock ECU reflashed by Prodrive with Ecutek. Which means that through purchase you have already paid for the Ecutek licsence and ANY Ecutek tuner can then tune your car, only paying for the tuners time. Sounds like you may need to get your facts straight.
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:21 AM   #10
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Cobb has a VF39/stage 2 off the shelf map?
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Old 02-19-2006, 10:28 AM   #11
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nm... i was thinking that the STi accessport had an of the shelf map for different turbo.
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