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Old 02-21-2006, 12:16 PM   #1
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Default SCCA March FasTrack is out. Club racers be sure to read H&N updates.

http://www.scca.org/_FileLibrary/File/06-3-fastrack.pdf


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Item 17. Effective 11/1/06: Add new section 11 to section 20 as follows:
11. Head and Neck Restraint
The use of a head and neck restraint device is highly recommended. All head and neck restraint devices must be certified by the SFI Foundation and bear the SFI 38.1 label.
emphasis added

As long as the use is highly recommended, I think the 38.1 spec also should be only highly recommended as well - which should be just as protective to the SCCA as an optional device anyway.

Also the wording as it stands now - no H&N restraint can be used since the SFI Foundation does not certify any equipment as explicitly stated in thier licnensing - all certifications of compliance with a spec are made by the manufacturer not SFI.

As with any item - the SCCA has become much more responsive to input. So feel free to write the CRB {at} SCCA {dot} com and provide your feedback either way.

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Old 02-21-2006, 12:26 PM   #2
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14. ITS - Classify the Audi A4 Quatro (Phillips). The advisory committee will continue to explore AWD.
15. ITS - Allow AWD vehicles in IT (Haney). The advisory committee will continue to explore AWD.
Come on everybody where is all the letters that were being sent?
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Old 02-21-2006, 12:55 PM   #3
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Old 02-21-2006, 02:17 PM   #4
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Ed,
BMWCCA has a similar ruling and there apparently is a selection out there meeting the criterion.

Taken from:

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...light=SFI+HANS

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HANS - (888) 426-7999 - www.hansdevice.com

R3 Device - (800) 731-4404 - www.lfttech.com

Hutchens II - (800) 731-4404 - www.hutchensdevice.com
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Old 02-21-2006, 02:30 PM   #5
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I know there are several products that meet the specification and bear the SFI 38.1 label - however none of them are "certified by the SFI Foundation". Certification that a product meets SFI specs are made by the manufacturer not by SFI, per their explicitly worded licensing agreement.

Intention or not the exact letter of the rule leaves no H&N restraint that would meet that rule. I don't think the BMWCCA rule said anything more than meets the spec.

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14.0 STATEMENT OF LIMITATIONS
Testing procedures and/or standards contained in this specification are intended for use only as a guide in determining compliance with the minimum performance requirements as defined herein. The granting and assignment of the "This Manufacturer Certifies That This Product Meets SFI Specification 38.1" logo/designation is in no way an endorsement or certification of product performance or reliability by SFI. SFI, its officers, directors and/or members assume no responsibility, legal or otherwise, for failure or malfunctions of a product under this program.

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Old 02-21-2006, 07:57 PM   #6
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wow... they put the mazdaspeed miata in BSP... go figure..
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Old 02-21-2006, 08:38 PM   #7
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Old 02-21-2006, 09:36 PM   #8
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:26 PM   #9
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You know the intent of the rule, and you can bet on it being inforced exactly as intended, regardless of your interpretation.


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I know there are several products that meet the specification and bear the SFI 38.1 label - however none of them are "certified by the SFI Foundation". Certification that a product meets SFI specs are made by the manufacturer not by SFI, per their explicitly worded licensing agreement.

Intention or not the exact letter of the rule leaves no H&N restraint that would meet that rule. I don't think the BMWCCA rule said anything more than meets the spec.

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Old 02-21-2006, 10:51 PM   #10
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I love the slaughter of the english language on this forum. Mine is not an interpretation, it is the literal meaning of what was written. Other conclusions would be interpretations. And in the application of the GCR it is the written word not the intent that is applied - otherwise club racing would be completely different than it is.

How much effort does it take to write what is meant and mean what is written? I mean this isn't an attempt to pen 'A Brief History of Time'.
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Old 02-21-2006, 10:57 PM   #11
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At any rate if you are racing, get a H&N device.

Page 16 in GRM has a bit on Simpson Performance financing HANS device purchases.
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Old 02-22-2006, 07:44 AM   #12
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Every other item dealing with restraints is worded as meeting SFI specs and containing #xxx.xx certification sticker. It's obviously the wrong choice of wording.....It wouldn't surprise me to see a clarification come out next month. Until then event directors will have to deal with it. If it is not possible (for anyone) to conform to the rule...is the rule correct?

AlexP has it right. A little more common sense wouldn't hurt.
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Old 02-22-2006, 08:14 AM   #13
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Exactly they got it right every other time.
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A little more common sense wouldn't hurt.
Seems to be a rather selective standard to apply - only thrown out when it is convenient. Generally common sense in the application of the rules is not allowed in club racing (and absolutely never in auto-x) - I have the literal meaning shoved down my throat all the time.
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Old 02-24-2006, 03:09 PM   #14
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Peeps that have older HANS get certified here => HANS SFI Retro-Certification
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