help me out guys

spoonfedb18a1 · 02-23-2006, 11:33 AM

i have a 98 rs with a jdm ej20g in it, with the jdm ecu and harness.

everything is stock, but i want more power...alot.......and i need help on deciding what i should do next .......to get more power.....i have $4000 to spend on anything.

what do u guys think i should get....bigger turbo swap....ect...or should i just go on the looks a little bit...like go for that jdm look..lol

by the way the car has a 2001 front end conversion, the car is black on gold stockers.

also the car may be up for sale in about a couple months........what do you think it may be worth.....with only about 34,000 on the motor.

with swap and four grand into it...?

thanks,
Andrew

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chrisarella · 02-23-2006, 11:56 AM

Wirelessly posted (Treo 600: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 95; PalmSource; Blazer 3.0) 16;160x160)

APS DR650 FMIC painted stealth black.
If you already have a VF30 or VF34, sell it and move up to a 20g or equvilant.
APS 3.5" turboback.
Utec and a tune.
Do you already have the JDM STI 6spd? If not, get one. If so...
340 whp = Done.

spoonfedb18a1 · 02-23-2006, 12:15 PM

nice input

no six speed. using my tranny and diff

the car is basicly stock other than jdm suspension.
thinking of switching to frontmount and turning up the boost.
also i really want to dyno the car just to see how much power and torque the stock motor really has......the i wnt to go utec and tune everthing.

chrisarella · 02-23-2006, 12:54 PM

^^^what turbo do you have? VF30? VF34?
And which injectors ? WRX 480s? STI 550s?

RallySport Direct · 02-24-2006, 12:36 PM

I think this should go in the conversion forum...
Anyway let me see if I can shed some light on this subject.

Ej20G eh? is it from a WRX Wagon or Sedan? It will either have a TD04 if it is a Wagon or Automatic(i think) It will have a TD05 16g if it is a Sedan.

Upgrades.. What do you want to do with this car? Have it as a street terror? Track? Show??

If it were my car, and I wanted more power I would upgrade......

Turbo- If you have a TD05 you can do some magical things with that lil' snail. Contact some of the Turbo Vendors on this ask them what they can do to the turbo. I smell 18G. Also your Turbo has a 90 degree inlet, so if you want a bigger or aftermarket turbo, that will be an issue that will have to be adressed.

Injectors - Your stock injectors are okay at best. There are some campanies that make injectors for the older jdm engines such as Power Enterprise. You can get up to 800cc injectors or as low as 550cc, dependiing on what you want. You will want an Upgraded fuel pump(if you dont already have one)

Engine management - umm... Power FC? You can run piggy backs, but if you want real power you will need to go full standalone on the older engines. Piggybacks are great for mostly stock set-ups, but if you go with a bigger turbo or injectors I think you would want something more powerful than a piggyback. The Apexi Power FC for the EJ20G is a plug and play unit.

Intercooler - Go Front Mount if possible. You can go with something like the APS unit that is specific for GC.

Or you could always just make a custom one, usually pretty cheap option.

Exhaust- Any WRX Turboback will fit nicely.

I would recomend upgrading the brakes and suspension also, but that is up to you.

Please let me know if you have any questions regarding your project.
Thanks
Rick
AIM: RickatRSD
801.619.1779

snowman4us · 02-25-2006, 12:20 PM

i say you do suspention and brakes...before you cango 120mph in less then 15sec. you need to be able to slow down 2X as fast and corner 2x as hard.
my .o2

spoonfedb18a1 · 02-25-2006, 01:38 PM

thanks guys....
i am going with a bigger turbo, but i was looking toward something like a 20g...?!?!?
bigger injectors and also front mount.

as far as engine management i was leanin toward the new greddy e1 and have it wired in. what do you think....it is cheaper than the apexi power fc.

as far as brakes......brembo...?!?!? suspension......some jdm version5...or JIC coilovers.

if you guys can tell me anything else...it would be greatly appreciated.

scoobydorift · 02-26-2006, 04:09 PM

If you want something like the Greddy EM, you should just get the HKS F-con, It will be much better if you want a 20g and big injectors.
Rick

Jaxx · 02-26-2006, 04:35 PM

an tod05 18G/20 is a simple upgrade as you can have deadbolt put the larger wheel in the existing housing ... other than that your are looking at a rotated mount due to the upturned inlet

a 30/34 (and vf-22) is smaller than what you have if your motor is from a manual sedan (auto and wagon have much smaller turbos)

i am running usdm sti injectors in a modified 1.8 fuel rail ~25% larger than stock

02-23-2006, 11:33 AM	#1
spoonfedb18a1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 51273 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Spartanburg SC Vehicle: 1998 EJ20G RS 345whp black	help me out guys i have a 98 rs with a jdm ej20g in it, with the jdm ecu and harness. everything is stock, but i want more power...alot.......and i need help on deciding what i should do next .......to get more power.....i have $4000 to spend on anything. what do u guys think i should get....bigger turbo swap....ect...or should i just go on the looks a little bit...like go for that jdm look..lol by the way the car has a 2001 front end conversion, the car is black on gold stockers. also the car may be up for sale in about a couple months........what do you think it may be worth.....with only about 34,000 on the motor. with swap and four grand into it...? thanks, Andrew * Registered users of the site do not see these ads.

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02-23-2006, 11:56 AM	#2
chrisarella Scooby Specialist Member#: 35584 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: www.chrisarella.com Vehicle: 1965 FFR Roadster Coyote + TR-6060	Wirelessly posted (Treo 600: Mozilla/4.0 (compatible; MSIE 6.0; Windows 95; PalmSource; Blazer 3.0) 16;160x160) APS DR650 FMIC painted stealth black. If you already have a VF30 or VF34, sell it and move up to a 20g or equvilant. APS 3.5" turboback. Utec and a tune. Do you already have the JDM STI 6spd? If not, get one. If so... 340 whp = Done.

02-23-2006, 12:15 PM	#3
spoonfedb18a1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 51273 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Spartanburg SC Vehicle: 1998 EJ20G RS 345whp black	nice input no six speed. using my tranny and diff the car is basicly stock other than jdm suspension. thinking of switching to frontmount and turning up the boost. also i really want to dyno the car just to see how much power and torque the stock motor really has......the i wnt to go utec and tune everthing.

02-23-2006, 12:54 PM	#4
chrisarella Scooby Specialist Member#: 35584 Join Date: Apr 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: www.chrisarella.com Vehicle: 1965 FFR Roadster Coyote + TR-6060	^^^what turbo do you have? VF30? VF34? And which injectors ? WRX 480s? STI 550s?

02-24-2006, 12:36 PM	#5
RallySport Direct NASIOC Vendor Member#: 33174 Join Date: Feb 2003 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Salt Lake City Utah Vehicle: We are Open Late! 888-457-2559 Every day!	I think this should go in the conversion forum... Anyway let me see if I can shed some light on this subject. Ej20G eh? is it from a WRX Wagon or Sedan? It will either have a TD04 if it is a Wagon or Automatic(i think) It will have a TD05 16g if it is a Sedan. Upgrades.. What do you want to do with this car? Have it as a street terror? Track? Show?? If it were my car, and I wanted more power I would upgrade...... Turbo- If you have a TD05 you can do some magical things with that lil' snail. Contact some of the Turbo Vendors on this ask them what they can do to the turbo. I smell 18G. Also your Turbo has a 90 degree inlet, so if you want a bigger or aftermarket turbo, that will be an issue that will have to be adressed. Injectors - Your stock injectors are okay at best. There are some campanies that make injectors for the older jdm engines such as Power Enterprise. You can get up to 800cc injectors or as low as 550cc, dependiing on what you want. You will want an Upgraded fuel pump(if you dont already have one) Engine management - umm... Power FC? You can run piggy backs, but if you want real power you will need to go full standalone on the older engines. Piggybacks are great for mostly stock set-ups, but if you go with a bigger turbo or injectors I think you would want something more powerful than a piggyback. The Apexi Power FC for the EJ20G is a plug and play unit. Intercooler - Go Front Mount if possible. You can go with something like the APS unit that is specific for GC. Or you could always just make a custom one, usually pretty cheap option. Exhaust- Any WRX Turboback will fit nicely. I would recomend upgrading the brakes and suspension also, but that is up to you. Please let me know if you have any questions regarding your project. Thanks Rick AIM: RickatRSD 801.619.1779

02-25-2006, 12:20 PM	#6
snowman4us Scooby Specialist Member#: 21764 Join Date: Jul 2002 Chapter/Region: RMIC Location: Salty Lake Vehicle: Some GDM V8, JDM Flat 4 X2	i say you do suspention and brakes...before you cango 120mph in less then 15sec. you need to be able to slow down 2X as fast and corner 2x as hard. my .o2

02-25-2006, 01:38 PM	#7
spoonfedb18a1 Scooby Specialist Member#: 51273 Join Date: Dec 2003 Chapter/Region: South East Location: Spartanburg SC Vehicle: 1998 EJ20G RS 345whp black	thanks guys.... i am going with a bigger turbo, but i was looking toward something like a 20g...?!?!? bigger injectors and also front mount. as far as engine management i was leanin toward the new greddy e1 and have it wired in. what do you think....it is cheaper than the apexi power fc. as far as brakes......brembo...?!?!? suspension......some jdm version5...or JIC coilovers. if you guys can tell me anything else...it would be greatly appreciated.

02-26-2006, 04:09 PM	#8
scoobydorift Scooby Specialist Member#: 43128 Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: SLC Vehicle: 92 RWD, 96 FWD 05 AWD	If you want something like the Greddy EM, you should just get the HKS F-con, It will be much better if you want a 20g and big injectors. Rick

02-26-2006, 04:35 PM	#9
Jaxx NASIOC Supporter Member#: 177 Join Date: Aug 1999 Chapter/Region: NWIC Location: Boise,Idaho,USA Vehicle: The 93 Imp W/EJ20K flat black	an tod05 18G/20 is a simple upgrade as you can have deadbolt put the larger wheel in the existing housing ... other than that your are looking at a rotated mount due to the upturned inlet a 30/34 (and vf-22) is smaller than what you have if your motor is from a manual sedan (auto and wagon have much smaller turbos) i am running usdm sti injectors in a modified 1.8 fuel rail ~25% larger than stock