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Old 12-24-2000, 08:57 PM   #1
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Question awd ??

i have a 93 Legacy and its awd. i think something is wrong cuz it sux in the snow? its a 5speed and the tranny has been making a faint wiending noise. and now im getting a check engine light!?!? the 91 i had was really good in the snow along with every other subaru i have driven. is there a difference between full time 4wd and awd?
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Old 12-24-2000, 08:58 PM   #2
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just wanted to add "MERRY CHRISTAMS ho ho ho"
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Old 12-25-2000, 01:35 PM   #3
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What tires are you using?

My touring wagon is terrible, but that's because i have worn Yokohama a520 tires on it. With good A/S or snow tires, it'd be killer...

As for the whining? The 5speed is noisy from what i've heard, but i've never owned a Legacy 5speed.
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Old 12-25-2000, 04:06 PM   #4
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generals on the front and MXT4s on the back with about half life left. see it doesnt sound like others legacys MT ive driven before. the noise is kinda like a blender? it doesnt do it when i have it in N with the clutch in, but when i let the clutch out it starts makeing the noise? maybe im low on fluid in the diff?
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Old 12-26-2000, 11:23 AM   #5
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In general, I would say any car other than an Integra which 'sounds like a blender' is broken.

If the noise comes and goes with engaging the clutch, I would guess that the clutch throwout bearing is bad.

Of course, I stand a good chance of being wrong; but regardless, I do not think your car should sound anything like a blender.

That said, your car probably will suck in snow unless you have appropriate tires on it. AWD doesn't give you more traction, it helps you better use what you have, and even then can't do much about helping you turn or stop. ( Appropriate tires for snow are 'snow' tires. )
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Old 12-26-2000, 05:01 PM   #6
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well it doest really sound like a blender i just cant define the sound, but i do agree with you about the bearing.
thanx for your help though.
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Old 12-26-2000, 06:19 PM   #7
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throw out bearing.

or perhaps the...aw crap, what the hell's it called...radial arm bearing? Something like that.

as for the snow, well, is the awd working? maybe you have a bad drivetrain and arer only 2wd at the moment....
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Old 12-26-2000, 08:21 PM   #8
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but its a 5 speed isnt that stright drive no chip or crap like that? i wonder i know the auto has a fuse u can pull. i dont know.
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Old 12-27-2000, 01:17 AM   #9
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generals on the front and MXT4s on the back with about half life left. it doesnt do it when i have it in N with the clutch in, but when i let the clutch out it starts makeing the noise

DUDE!!!!!!! What are you doing to your transmission!!!??? ALL WHEEL DRIVE cars are ALWAYS supposed to have the SAME type and aged tires on ALL four wheels!!! You might be able to get a away with it on a 2WD car, but NEVER do this on an AWD car!!!

When you put on different kinds of tires, they have different rolling diameters and traction. The front wheels may spin at a different speed from the rear wheels. Your AWD system thinks it's slipping and tries to compensate. This will cause the center differential to BIND. Your tires will wear faster, and your center differential is put under a lot of stress!! Unless you install four new tires SOON, you're going to get a BIG bill to switch out or repair your transmission!

Having two different brands of tires is not just bad for your transmission, but it could also be dangerous to your health!! Like I said before, different tires have different traction. One set of tires could break loose before the other. It can be VERY difficult to control a car like that, because it's hard to predict how the car will handle a curve.

So when you buy tires for your AWD vehicle, always buy four tires at a time! If you get a flat tire, and can't repair the puncture, you just can't go out and replace that one tire. You should buy all four new ones. Sure it's expensive and inconvenient to throw out 3 other perfectly good tires, but that's the price we have to pay for added traction and complexity of AWD.

Saving a couple bucks on tires, is not worth the extra cost of transmissions repairs, not to mention the increased chance for personal injury! Now if your other good tires have VERY low mileage and wear, then maybe you could get away with one new tire, as long as it is connected to an OPEN differential, and not a locked/limited slip differential(LSD). You can't stick it across one of those, because again the differential will bind. The same thing goes for use of the DONUT SPARETIRE.

Alright well I hope this cleared things up, and I hope that you can get FOUR NEW SNOW/ALL-SEASON tires to get you through your winter. With any luck your transmission still might last a while depending how long you have been abusing it with improper tire setup.

Good luck!
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Old 12-27-2000, 10:38 AM   #10
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opps! well it was a used car and is now is gona be sold in like a week or so. i found a 96 legacy for a really good price. i will make sure to tell the people who are buying it what you said. those were the tires it had on it when i bought it.
thanx for clearing that up!
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Old 12-28-2000, 12:41 AM   #11
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My cousin has different front tires than rear on his RWD '97 240sx. He was recomended that by several people online in a forum like this, as well as from technicians...
Needless to say, his car now GRIPS the corners like a MO'FO!

I dont suggest this on a AWD car though
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