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Old 12-17-2000, 09:08 PM   #1
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Yep, thats what I run. Had them since Jan 1995. Got the GAB springs too. They kick ass.
Worth every penny. They are just now starting to go soft. Thats 5 years of REALLY hard driving before the need of a rebuild and new springs.
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Old 12-17-2000, 10:40 PM   #2
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That sounds mighty good Slide! What do you have them on? What will it cost to rebuild them? What sort of adjustment do they offer? Is the adjustment in clicks like the KYB or more like a Koni? The stockers are going a little wallowy on my 98 GT Wagon and since I plan to retain the stock springs I thought these sounded pretty good. This car won't get driven that hard but I plan to have her for a long time!
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Old 12-18-2000, 12:00 AM   #3
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Has anyone had any experience with GAB Shocks? I found a 4 Stage "Super HP Adjustable" for the Legacy. They run $227 ea, which is obviously a bit steep. Any knowledge or experience with this product?
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Old 12-18-2000, 07:56 AM   #4
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GAB/KYB - same thing....


good struts IMHO... for that price though, they better include the springs!!!

you'd be better off getting a coil over set up if you are going to spend that kind of cash.

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Old 12-18-2000, 09:00 AM   #5
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Hey Jamie! Tell me more on this GAB/KYB same thing issue. AGX's don't run anywhere near the price of these GAB's. Is it like Toyota/Lexus? And after my Integra spring experience I don't want to lower the Wagon with after-market springs. SpeedBumps and SUV's suck!!
hehe! Couldn't help meself!
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Old 12-18-2000, 09:11 AM   #6
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You know, Dale at Teague's is getting me some Whiteline springs that don't drop the car any more than an inch. They are wagon-specific, and he has a set on his project Legacy, with glowing reports.

I just went through the Eibach debacle, so I do indeed know what you mean about precipitous wagon plummets.

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Old 12-18-2000, 09:46 AM   #7
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Hey Kevin! Had been wondering about the WhiteLine spring thing. Are they still in transit? I've followed with some interest your Eibach trials and tribulations. Frankly, I love the way the Neuspeed/Koni upgrade transformed the handling on my Acura, BUT, I wince every time I cross over a speed bump, and have even taken to driving around them whenever possible. I've even delayed purchasing a cat-back replacement for the car, dreading leaving stainless steel shavings on top of each of the little S*B's. I know how it must have hurt to loose that great handling when you took them off!!
Be sure to let us know the second you start trialing thos new Wagon springs. I'm real curious to see if they're worth the wait! Did Dale by any chance order more than one set? What are they setting you back? Weren't you planning to run them with the AGX'es?

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Old 12-18-2000, 09:58 AM   #8
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Well, Jamie is right that KYB and GAB are the same thing (sorta)...

KYB makes the GABs, matter of fact, KYB makes a lot of the shocks you see. BUT, there is a BIG difference between the GAB dampers and the KYB AGX's. The GABs are valved MUCH stiffer than the AGX, hence the price difference. I know that RoadRace won't recommend the GABs for DSMs except for the real hardcore people, since they are VERY VERY VERY stiff.

Just a heads up.

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Old 12-18-2000, 10:49 AM   #9
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Yeah I was just going to get to the valve issue, they are stiff. stiff enough to render stock springs pathetic, Even on there soft setting. They need a nice stiff spring.
I slam through lots of speed bumps with no problems other than a couple rattled teeth.
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Old 12-19-2000, 09:33 AM   #10
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Hey Jamie! Tell me more on this GAB/KYB same thing issue. AGX's don't run anywhere near the price of these GAB's. Is it like Toyota/Lexus? And after my Integra spring experience I don't want to lower the Wagon with after-market springs. SpeedBumps and SUV's suck!!
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So the story goes:
KYB has been making GAB shocks for a long time. A little over a year ago, KYB started marketing a shock that looks just like the GAB that they make(red shock, 4-8 dial adjuster at bottom of the shock), at a much reduced price.

I stayed away from these shocks because they were unproven and carried a short warranty. However I understand that they have been on the market long enough that KYB now gives them the life time warranty that this grade of shock deserves.

I haven't found any verification that these are identical shocks. It should be noted that GAB has more than one type of shock, so the KYB is not necessarily what you are looking at with the GAB.

From the people I know who use these, they can be set to be super stiff.

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Old 12-19-2000, 04:46 PM   #11
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Just heard from Dale. My springs are in the January order, which means they should be in my hot little hands (well, cold actually...it is Chicago) by the end of January. Not that I can do anything with them anyhow until the winter wonderland ceases. But I'm excited.

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Old 12-19-2000, 06:33 PM   #12
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Yeah, Chicago must be one big deposit of snow... usually that's the kind of stuff us Canadians are suppose to see.... did anyone here about the storm in Atlanta? Snowing there is just crazy... thought it was suppose to be nice down in the south in the winter
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Old 12-20-2000, 12:31 AM   #13
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I haven't heard a darned thing from Dale, because he hasn't heard a darned thing from Whiteline (grrrr!). He has them up at his site, and I'm not sure what's taking them so long. Might be time for an email.

And yes, the handling took a noticeable nosedive after removal of the Eibachs. It's still substantially better than stock with the AGXs/stock springs, but the stockers can't handle the AGXs at all. Bummer.

I think that he just ordered one set, then again, I don't know for sure. I still am planning to run them with the AGXs, and am looking forward to the red/blue color scheme (he says with tongue firmly planted in cheek).

I'll check with Dale and see what the dilly-o is.

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Old 12-20-2000, 06:55 AM   #14
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Yeah GTBGUY, and the hits just keep on comin'. We're getting another 2-5" today, with another front headed in for the weekend. And there's a bit of irony in the fact that we have the only cleared driveway in our alley, and one of the only cars that doesn't NEED a clear path.

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