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Old 02-28-2006, 03:09 AM   #1
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I am debating on what to do to my car next in terms of performance. I know I want to do some visual modifications for the pure reason of photogenic purposes and suspension work, but I do not know much about these cars. Some of you may know that I came from the F-Body world, so it was a complete 180 for me getting a Subaru. Anyways, I was thinking about going with a camshaft, because I will not be able to afford a swap for a while and definetly do not want to turbo the RS motor. So my questions are for my 2000 RS:

-are cams worth the money on these engines?
-is it a bad idea with 100,000 miles on the car that I drive normally the majority of the time?
-what brand and size cams would you suggest if I go this route?
-will I need to upgrade the internals or could I safely run of stock?
-where should I look and about how much am I looking at spending?

I posted this here because I do not check any other sections of NASIOC and figured it would be better to hear some responses from people that I will probably talk to in the near future.
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Old 02-28-2006, 04:39 AM   #2
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You seriously have a better chance asking here http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=31 since that's the forum where people who most likely have done what you're looking into do/have already looked into. Search option isn't too bad but as most search options can be tedious.
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:00 AM   #3
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On the NA motors on Subarus your money is better spent on non-HP mods as it costs a ton of cash to get any significant increases in HP out of an NA subie. You are better off putting the money toward Brakes, Suspension, Tires, and most importantly a few track days where you can learn to drive it faster and it's a mod you can bring to all future cars!

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Old 02-28-2006, 10:33 AM   #4
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You'll spend a ton of money for minimal performance.

Save up for a swap.
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Old 02-28-2006, 11:04 AM   #5
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You would be much better off spending the $$ on suspension/brakes. As mike said the amount of $$ you put into gaining HP out of an NA just isn't worth what you get. The most I would do to an RS would be header-back exhaust w/bolra headers and stromung (SP?) catback. But even that is quite expensive for not too much HP gain, sounds nice tho .

If you just learned how to drive better you would end up driving WAY faster then you would if you did modifications to the car. I'm not saying this as an insult please do not take it that way. Even I know I could be a much faster driver if i got some track time, as it is i'm doing some auto-x stuff and learning that i still have alot to learn.

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Old 02-28-2006, 11:50 AM   #6
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You would be much better off spending the $$ on suspension/brakes. As mike said the amount of $$ you put into gaining HP out of an NA just isn't worth what you get. The most I would do to an RS would be header-back exhaust w/bolra headers and stromung (SP?) catback. But even that is quite expensive for not too much HP gain, sounds nice tho .

If you just learned how to drive better you would end up driving WAY faster then you would if you did modifications to the car. I'm not saying this as an insult please do not take it that way. Even I know I could be a much faster driver if i got some track time, as it is i'm doing some auto-x stuff and learning that i still have alot to learn.

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I agree on the header/catback setup. Sounds good with not a whole lot of HP gains but that's about all you can do on the NAs for any sane amount of money.

As for learning, everyone can learn to drive better. Just 2 weekends ago I took another instructor along with me to see how I could improve, even though I myself am an instructor, and he whipped my ass into shape with some pointers and some good advice. By the end of the weekend I was doing much better on track at VIR.

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Old 02-28-2006, 11:58 AM   #7
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screw cams get strippers!!
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Old 02-28-2006, 02:06 PM   #8
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Yeah I already got a Borla header and a Tanabe Axleback that I'm going to finish off soon with a midpipe and test pipe. I know I wouldn't get a ton of performance, but wasn't sure if it would be worth it. Guess not. =P Maybe if I can find one cheap, I think Subarus would sound beastly with a cam, haha this is where my domestic side of me comes in. =X
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:09 PM   #9
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sound good but costs way more than you get out of it, than add in youd prob get a CEL, and then you need something to tune the car with and nothing really good out there i say
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Old 02-28-2006, 03:43 PM   #10
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You'll spend a ton of money for minimal performance.

Save up for a swap.
fin...
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:46 PM   #11
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do suspension, brakes.......... save up for a swap...... fix your bumper....... be happy haha

ur motor has 100,000 miles, replace it instead of putting lots of things on it! haha
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Old 02-28-2006, 05:54 PM   #12
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not even sure theres a decent cam available for RS's.. i know someone has one as part of a huge "power package" but thats still under 200HP without Nitrous.

and it wont help the sound any. subaru's are 100% opposite what Domestics are..whatever you do for them, dont do on subaru's, lol.

though, superchargers make them cool..and VERY rare.

headers, race pipe, catback, and S-AFC2/S-ITC or any other fuel/timing controllers are about the only items that yeild gains on EJ25's. light flywheels and proper gearing help in drivability.
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Old 02-28-2006, 06:09 PM   #13
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If you are going power adder then I suggest N20. Atleast when you toast your RS motor you have an excuse to do a swap..
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Old 02-28-2006, 06:55 PM   #14
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Nah, I can not afford N2O risk right now. I need a reliable car with some gains preferably.
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:04 PM   #15
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finish your exhaust, he has an 00 so an SAFC wont work, the ECU adapts around the SAFC settings after few hundred miles, not worth it. He already has a cobb intake and header. He just needs to finish off the exhaust work then work on suspension, make it a fun driving car!

come back up to williamsport, then ull want a handling car instead of a fast car haha
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:38 PM   #16
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Yeah, I don't want a fast car, I want something quick. Preferablly a mid 12 second car and handles great, but I'll go for a 14 second car, haha.
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Old 02-28-2006, 07:59 PM   #17
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Yes for the swap. I have an 05 RS, and I'd love a nice STi engine under the hood. Plus, EJ's are really cheap for the hp to buy compared to other motors, such as the SR20det (197 - 210 HP) (3k -4.5k rebuilt w/tranny) and the 3sgt. (relatively 210)(average 4k) I almost bought both these motors at one time or another (sr20 for my 240sx, 3sgt for my Fiero HAHA ), and after looking into powerplants, EJ is about the cheapest for the hP.
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Old 03-01-2006, 12:42 PM   #18
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3sgte for a fiero? haha awesome, at least that wont light on fire haha.

yea i say make ur car handle well, then do a basic swap.

Id be happy if my car could break into 12's and handled well........ but i dont foresee that happening soon
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Id be happy if my car could break into 12's and handled well........ but i dont foresee that happening soon
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