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Old 09-25-2001, 12:22 AM   #1
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Default Hey all, newbie here.....

I'm not a GT Wagon owner just yet. I'm trying to unload my Prelude first before I get the wagon. I'm also trying to find a good used black on black, 5 spd., GT wagon....wish me luck.

If you hear of anything, please let me know.

Just in case you're interested in me, I love show cars (just look at my Lude...known as Luder94 to all the HondaPrelude.com guys), I love open track running (with my S2000, also known as Luder94 with the S2000online.com guys), and I am the regional director for S2000 Club of America--Midwest region.

While I look and talk with my buddies about the 2.5 GT, they all are trying to push me to the WRX wagon...please tell me otherwise.

I'm slowly trying to ween myself out of the Import tuning that the younger generations are doing, I want to do something more "adult". I thought mildly tuning a 2.5 GT wagon would fit the bill perfectly while still being able to carry two big dogs comfortably....maybe I talk too much, so let me bid faire adieu...

Later all...

Luder94...oh wait, Wagonner
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Old 09-25-2001, 01:01 AM   #2
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Old 09-25-2001, 01:29 AM   #3
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dont get a wagon!! they are slow and sluggish, i got myself a GT LE sedan, 165 hp, 2.5 litre.. yeah its stock... but it still kicks some ass! sometimes.. hehe.. better than my fridnds outback wagon tho.the dogs can go in the trunk, hehe jk.
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Old 09-25-2001, 01:42 AM   #4
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My Prelude has the get up and go that I need as well as the S2000. The reason for the the Legacy GT wagon is because it is different than what anyone else has, it's got some decent performance, it doesn't have the front end of the WRX , it has a lot of room to haul stuff, and the fiance can drive it in the winter without me having to worry about her <--- Not saying that she can't drive, I actually get her on the track with the S2K.
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Old 09-25-2001, 01:49 AM   #5
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oohhhh! ic
i thoutgh you were trading in your only car.. yeah a wagon is sick for a second car. nice choice! or have you considered a passat wagon?
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Old 09-25-2001, 02:00 AM   #6
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oohhhh! ic
i thoutgh you were trading in your only car.. yeah a wagon is sick for a second car. nice choice! or have you considered a passat wagon?
I like for my cars to last for more than a year and a half, so I have to stay away from VW's. Also, the Legacy can be tracked once in a while when the S2K isn't available....hell it can be tracked on a winter day
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Old 09-25-2001, 02:26 AM   #7
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i'm not a honda guy, but i like that prelude a lot, except for the tails.....nicest one in that body style i've seen.......
get a 95-99, they're faster and more parts are available, as the suspension is shared with the old RS and the new WRX, where the new 00 and up legacies have a multilink that noone (in the US) caters to.....
welcome to the family, from anther wagon guy
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Old 09-25-2001, 02:42 AM   #8
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Thanks for the comps...

the clear tails only go on for show. The car is my daily driver and I hate the thought of getting hassled by the local cops for something so stupid. The OEMs are always on the car otherwise.

So what else do I need to know with the differences of a '99 GT wagon vs. the '00- '01 GT wagons?

I thought the base of the car was the same, only differences were small things on the interior and the front end? <---If I'm wrong than please let it be because of the the sales guy's stupidity. I only know what he tells me......
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Old 09-25-2001, 08:32 AM   #9
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the 2000+ legacys are built off a different chassis. rear suspension is different, the cars are heavier, quieter, and imo more comfortable. suspension upgrades are available, but more difficult to find (than the already small bd/bg legacy market).

i think gtguy traded his black wagon in on a wrx in the chicago area a few months back. don't know if it's still sitting on some dealer's lot.

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Old 09-25-2001, 08:57 AM   #10
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Just to help out a little further...

Model desgnations you'll see here a lot are: BD/BG ('95-'99 Sedan/Wagon) and BE/BH (2K+ Sedan/Wagon).

There is <b>not</b> much of a weight penalty in getting a wagon over a sedan. The BG weighed only 80 lbs. more than the sedan. Besides, wagons are just cooler!!

One thing you may want to consider is a WRX wagon... They come with lots of chutzpah straight from the factory! And, they'll hold lots of stuff in the back, too.

Then again, I've only seen <b>two</b> other GT wagons on the road here since Nov. '97, and I see 2 WRX wagons a week... So, the GT Wagon is nice and unique. And there lies your problem... Not only is the GT Wagon rare, in the automagic luvin' US, there are even fewer 5 spd wagons... I'll definitely have my fingers crossed for you.

If you're looking at doing some mods on the car, you may want to consider an 'L' model wagon. <i>I've forgotten what year they made the switch -- I think MY99</i>, but you get the same 2.5l engine, tranny, etc. in a lighter body. Add on a suspension and wheels, and you've made yourself a GT (sans sunroof).

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<i>By the way, that is the sharpest Prelude I can remember seeing -- as long as I don't look at it from behind.</i>
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Old 09-25-2001, 03:18 PM   #11
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Yeah, the prelude does look nice. I remember seeing a late 90's (maybe 98?!?) legacy wagon on the lot at huffines here in dallas. I was getting my first oil change on the outback and saw it in the used lot. I don't know if it's what you wanted, but I think it was black and 5 speed. But, I was more concerned about other things so i didn't memorize all the details. From what I've seen so far, you can make the legacy fast, but it cost $$$ just like anything else...
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Old 09-25-2001, 03:45 PM   #12
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Wagoneer, Although very partial to the BG Wagons, which are not slow or sluggish with a few suspension mods, the MAJOR diff on the newer BH model is the Phase2 motor (and aforementioned rear suspension, which opens up rear cargo space considerably). This motor is noticeably torquier in the lower end of the rev range, developing something like 80% of it's power by 3K-RPM's, and does not suffer from the dreaded "piston-slap" of the Phase1. Some later 99's I believe came with the P2 motor, but you would have to search the threads and archives to determine how to differentiate visually. I'm amazed (shouldn't be I guess since I usually know more about the product than the "sales-person" selling it) that your dealer person didn't let you in on these details. The 2K+ does not come with that great Hood-scoop, and does have that goofy rear "smile" window! Fact is They're All Good! Wagons are Cool!!

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Old 09-25-2001, 08:53 PM   #13
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Default L Wagons

FWIW, I love my 01 L 5 spd Wagon. It's a lot of fun to drive even stock, which may not be for long. At the bargain prices you can get, there is plenty of room for modifications. Even with $3,000 or so for heads/cams/headers etc it still adds up to about an Outback. Handling packages are also available - a lowered L would be very cool. As with the GT, they are less common and therefore more unique.
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Old 09-26-2001, 12:02 AM   #14
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Old 09-26-2001, 12:23 AM   #15
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I resent being slow and sluggish. I love my Legacy GT Wagon. I think it rocks. All of my friends think is rocks and it does. In school, my wagon is a trooper because it never lets me down.

Definitely nothing wrong with getting a wagon.
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Old 09-26-2001, 01:48 PM   #16
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Amen to that!! low_rider must've been driving his Dad's "Country Squire"! hehehehe

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Old 09-26-2001, 04:31 PM   #17
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Definitlyget the wagon!

The wagon has uniqueness and style that the sedan will never have. (sorry sedan guys). The whole "sportwagon" concept is well accepted now also, so don't worry about getting respect in it (if that is even an issue). Whoever said wagons are slow could be right, but I don't agree. The perception of speed is completly subjective. Which car are you comparing it to when you say slow? Of course it would be slower than an S2000, but it is faster than alot of other cars out there and is incredibly fun to drive...especially in the curves. Patch on a few mods to refine it a bit and you have a mature looking car that can also be inspiring to drive.

And if that doesn't convince you, then try putting your dogs into the trunk of a sedan.

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Old 09-26-2001, 06:49 PM   #18
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meh, i guess wagons are alright.. i just would never think of buying one.... i just prefer the look of the sedan
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Old 09-26-2001, 07:38 PM   #19
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Cool low_rider! The Wagon will look better as you get older! And the babies,strollers, playpens, dogs,etc. need rides! I have an Integra to commute in, but for trips there's nothing like the GT. Carries everything in style!

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