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Old 09-25-2001, 02:39 AM   #1
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i was on the backroads today and i wanted to test out the 0-60 time for my stock AUTO gt . now my ??? is, is it safe to manually shift from 1st to 2nd and to 3rd while about 500rpm b4 the redline in each shift?

btw....as for the time, it was 54.38sec. damn stop button wouldnt work
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Old 09-25-2001, 08:34 AM   #2
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There should be no problem in doing that. Although... it sounds like <i>someone</i> has a case of 'clutch envy'!

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Old 09-25-2001, 02:34 PM   #3
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ummmm i do? (YES I DO SO WHAT :monkey: ) wasn't my fault man, my wife made me do it I SWEAR SHE MADE ME PICK IT
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Old 09-25-2001, 07:49 PM   #4
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Voltis5- I do that almost every day.
In the morning when stuck in heavy stop and go traffic, I keep it in 2nd gear and just drive like that until we start moving at a normal pace.
I also downshift it into 3rd when I'm speeding along and need to slow down without brakes or just want the revs high for quick lane changes.
I suffer from clutch envy and ITS MY FAULT.
This is my first auto and I will regret it till the day I get a new car.
I went from a 5-spd 300ZX turbo to an Auto Legacy. Talk about night and day difference. I got an Auto cause I thought I had gotten sick and tired of shifting. Once you go stick, you never go back to auto. I can't even use "my wife(or GF) only drives auto", cause she drives a 2001 5-spd GS-R. Those things are so fun to drive, especially when someone like me mods them. She doesn't even realize what I have done to her car until I get behind the wheel. Vtec is addictive!!!!!!!!

Some final words of advice.......when accelerating from 1,2,3,4 BE CAREFUL you don't throw it into Neutral. Especially if you are racing or trying to pass someone and not paying attention. Not only will you look stupid but also hurt your car.
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Old 09-25-2001, 08:09 PM   #5
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thanks for the advice Mek, but i really dont race against anyone. i just do it once in a while (man. shift) while im alone in the backroads and race the deers but for some reason they always try to get in front of me

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Old 09-26-2001, 12:45 AM   #6
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I stopped manually shifting because my shifter jumps from 2 into N very easily. I have to do it very carefully and watch it. I only manually shift now when driving around offroad or working on my scoobnuts in dirt parking lots. Still lots of work needed, have yet to complete a full scoobnut.

I have found though, that the car shifts faster than I can safely do. In other words, when I let the car do its thing, I go faster. Usually drive around in 3 during traffic or on the windy roads.
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Old 09-26-2001, 08:04 PM   #7
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[Some final words of advice.......when accelerating from 1,2,3,4 BE CAREFUL you don't throw it into Neutral. Especially if you are racing or trying to pass someone and not paying attention. Not only will you look stupid but also hurt your car. [/b][/quote]


...Why would it hurt your car? All you will do is bump off the rev limiter.

My manual '98 2.2 L Wagon is faster than my '97 2.5 GT Sedan auto, if anyone cares. The times are somewhere.

Besides -- auto Soobs are just glorified FWDs, unlike a manual. 90/10 vs. 50/50.
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Old 09-26-2001, 08:55 PM   #8
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I don't mind my Auto at all (I live in LA). It's not as fast as a manual, but if I want some get-up-and-go, I just let off the throttle for a fraction of a sec and then reapply really quick. The ECU realises you want more speed and downshifts and gives you alot-o-gass and the car will take right off. Fun.

I think it might be the modern equivalent of the "sport" mode of the old Legacys.

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Old 09-27-2001, 03:10 AM   #9
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really? auto's get 90/10 where as to the man. get 50/50?
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Old 09-28-2001, 07:04 PM   #10
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Well, the automatic splits the torque 90/10, F/R, until there is slippage, and then it shifts, but I don't know the max amount. The manual is 50/50 until there is slippage.

I believe the difference is because the automatics use an electronic form of torque distribution, while a manual utilizes a viscous coupling, but I'm not really sure.

Butt-meter tells me my stick wagon has quite a bit more turn-in (ie, understeers less) than my auto GT, and the tail is noticably (sp) looser.

...I dunno... I hated driving my auto in the snow.
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Old 09-28-2001, 07:54 PM   #11
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90/10 going to 50/50, I think, on the auto..... but it feels like more sometimes, like a 40/60 or 70/30; all I know is that in dirt or on pavement at the limit, nailing the throttle will swing the back around like nobody's business; my car (4EAT) rotates better than my roommate's RS did...... doesn't mean I don't want a stick, but the auto's not that bad, and the AWD system is much more advanced on the autos.

In my experience, my car handles more like a RWD under power (albeit with the ability to pull out of drifts a little easier) whereas the sticks will allow beuatiful 4 wheel drifts..... I can only 4 wheel powerslide reliably if i'm shifting the auto and holding it in first or second, which incidentally, locks the car in at a fixed 50/50 on the 4EAT's.....

Doesn't mean it handles better, just different, and my car's better in the snow than the stick subarus I've driven, as long as i put it in 2nd to start (goosing it in first will spin all 4 though.....)
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Old 09-28-2001, 11:45 PM   #12
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went to the dragstrip for the first time, tonight. tried shifting manually on the first run - jammed it from 2nd into neutral. would have had that 12.9 sec. camaro otherwise.
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