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Old 03-06-2006, 11:37 PM   #1
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I got my UTEC the other day and its all installed.. Im curios as to how to set the ABS cause the manual doesent mention what position to start it in.

Ive read up a bit on the site and i just want to confirm what im thinking...'

Turn the ABS till it bottoms out and then give it three turns open or somthing to that affect?

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Old 03-07-2006, 04:28 AM   #2
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I think you mean the ABC (Auxiliary Boost Controller) It is in the manuals FAQ section. Open it 2 turns
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I think you mean the ABC (Auxiliary Boost Controller) It is in the manuals FAQ section. Open it 2 turns
FAQ section... My bad.. I should have checked there first!!

Thanks a bunch!!

BTW for reference that would be FAQ Question 9 xvi
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Old 03-07-2006, 04:16 PM   #4
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Ok so i gave it 2 turns as the manual suggested and im curios... here are my log data from before and after the ABC change..

With the ABC Completely Closed - Mid 11's and Low 12's

Quote:
Originally Posted by UTEC Logger
1300 059 -11.0 10 ECU. 23.7 00000
2292 095 -7.9 10 +14.7 16.1 00000
4235 098 -5.3 10 +23.2 17.5 00000
4016 095 -1.4 10 +22.7 12.5 00000
3907 095 +2.3 30 +18.4 rich 00000
4011 095 +5.1 50 +18.0 rich 00000
4020 094 +9.0 70 +16.5 rich 00000
4070 095 +11.7 70 +16.2 rich 00000
4055 094 +12.5 70 +16.9 rich 00000
4130 095 +12.5 60 +17.2 rich 00000
4130 095 +11.9 60 +17.2 rich 00000
4145 094 +11.9 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4198 095 +11.7 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4171 095 +12.1 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4219 095 +12.5 70 +16.9 rich 00000
4284 095 +12.3 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4290 094 +12.3 60 +17.0 rich 00000
4317 094 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4306 094 +12.1 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4340 094 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4420 094 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
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4504 095 +12.3 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4541 094 +11.5 60 +17.2 rich 00000
4585 085 +11.3 60 +17.3 rich 00000
4498 000 +9.6 50 ECU. rich 00000
4566 000 +4.3 00 ECU. rich 00000
4273 000 -0.6 00 ECU. 18.6 00000
3963 000 -5.9 00 ECU. 23.7 00000
3619 000 -9.8 00 ECU. 24.0 00000
3367 000 -10.0 00 ECU. 24.0 00000
3103 000 -10.2 00 ECU. 24.0 00000
2851 000 -10.2 00 ECU. 24.0 00000
2594 000 -10.4 00 ECU. 23.7 00000
With the ABC 2 complete turns open - Mid 12's and Low 13's

Quote:
Originally Posted by UTEC Logger
3080 085 +0.0 20 +23.8 13.4 00000
3126 088 +2.7 30 +20.8 12.3 00000
3124 089 +4.7 40 +18.1 rich 00000
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3223 089 +10.8 70 +14.7 rich 00000
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3646 089 +12.9 70 +14.3 rich 00000
3683 089 +12.9 70 +14.5 rich 00000
3724 089 +13.1 70 +14.5 rich 00000
3741 089 +13.3 70 +14.4 rich 00000
3787 089 +12.9 70 +14.8 rich 00000
3822 089 +13.1 70 +15.1 rich 00000
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3907 089 +12.9 70 +15.5 rich 00000
3930 089 +12.7 60 +16.8 rich 00000
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4035 089 +12.3 70 +16.5 rich 00000
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4060 088 +12.7 70 +16.8 rich 00000
4105 088 +12.7 70 +16.8 rich 00000
4135 088 +12.3 70 +17.0 12.4 00000
4171 088 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4192 088 +12.3 70 +17.0 rich 00000
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4262 088 +12.1 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4306 088 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4329 088 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4391 088 +12.5 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4420 088 +12.7 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4492 081 +12.3 70 +17.0 rich 00000
4528 000 +8.8 30 ECU. rich 00000
4504 000 +3.1 00 ECU. rich 00000
4198 000 -2.4 00 ECU. 20.1 00000
4055 057 -6.7 10 +22.3 24.0 00000
5184 073 -5.9 10 +23.0 15.5 00000
6313 000 -3.2 10 ECU. rich 00000
5984 000 -3.4 10 ECU. 16.0 00000
5649 000 -5.3 10 ECU. 14.4 00000
5376 000 -8.7 10 ECU. 12.7 00000
5136 000 -11.8 10 ECU. 12.6 00000
4873 000 -12.2 10 ECU. 12.4 00000
4572 000 -12.2 00 ECU. rich 00000
Isent the 3rd colum my boost.. and shouldent my goal be to get it around 16psi? If so was it the 2 turns that raised my boost and if it was then should i give it another turn to raise my boost some more?

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Old 03-07-2006, 07:16 PM   #5
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Capture a #1 log. It has much more info in it. But yes the 3rd column is the boost.

Once you have opened the utec, ALT-T in hyperterm, 'C'apture, Then name the file and hit enter. Then press the number 1 and do some pulls. Then ALT-T, 'C'apture, Stop and post those logs

You could probally open it one more turn, but you should get a full pull first from 2k-7k in 3rd gear to make sure its ok. Also it looks like you might need to do the TPS Calibration because your not hitting 100 percent TPS in those pulls above.
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you should get a full pull first from 2k-7k in 3rd gear to make sure its ok.
This is the ideal way to test it out?

Thanks for the info and ill check the manual for the TPS you spoke of...
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As long as your not getting Flashing CEL when going 2k-7k yes its fine as a test.
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Wow.. let me start by saying 3k-7k in 3rd is alot faster then it sounds...

This run was the longest abandoned road around and it just wasent good enough to get to 7k in 3rd... i guess its a track or dyno freindly test

Anyways here is my run in 3rd...

Quote:
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4894,-11.0,2.0, 0, 10, 00, 12.2,+11.2, 10.2,ECU. , -1.5,ECU. ,2.0
4668,-11.8,2.0, 0, 00, 00, rich,+11.1, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,2.0
4317,-11.8,2.0, 0, 00, 00, 19.2,+11.0, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.9
3958,-11.8,1.9, 0, 00, 00, 24.0,+11.3, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.9
3623,-11.8,1.8, 0, 00, 00, 23.7,+11.4, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.8
3280,-11.6,1.7, 0, 00, 00, 24.2,+11.7, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.7
3000,-11.4,1.7, 0, 00, 00, 24.2,+11.5, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.6
2694,-11.4,1.6, 0, 00, 00, 23.7,+11.8, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.6
2440,-11.4,1.5, 0, 00, 00, 23.7,+11.8, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.4
2210,-11.6,1.4, 0, 00, 00, 24.0,+12.1, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.4
1940,-12.0,1.3, 0, 00, 00, 18.4,+12.2, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.3
1702,-12.0,1.3, 0, 00, 00, 24.2,+12.2, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.3
1460,-12.2,1.3, 0, 00, 00, 23.7,+12.8, 26.2,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.3
1221,-12.0,1.2, 0, 00, 00, 23.7,+20.5, 0.0,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.3
1219,-12.0,1.2, 0, 00, 00, 24.2,+20.6, 1.6,ECU. , +0.0,ECU. ,1.2
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Wow.. let me start by saying 3k-7k in 3rd is alot faster then it sounds...

This run was the longest abandoned road around and it just wasent good enough to get to 7k in 3rd... i guess its a track or dyno freindly test

Anyways here is my run in 3rd...

Well you need to Calibrate your TPS (Throttle Position Sensor) because your not getting to 100% TPS which is the 4th field in your latest pull. once you have that saying 100, or even a few percent above 100 is fine, you will be able to reach the higher load columns and the TPS/RPM to RPM/MAP cross over point will be correct. For instance your not even reaching the 90 percent load column.

I would set the TPS first then log a pull and after that depending on boost levels you might be able to open the ABC a little bit more. Your pretty close to the 6000rpm boost level now and thats only in the 70 percent load column. Just follow the manuals recommendations for the boost levels of stage 1 (Below):

RPM/Stage Stage 1
4000 16.1psi
5500 15psi
6000 12.5psi
7000 12 psi
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Here is the TPS section of the manual...




Im not sure I understan what there asking me to do...

Step 1: I have a PC and a UTEC .... Done!

Step 2: Turned ignition on but did not start car. With no Pressure on the throttle I recorded the TPS value under Logger #4 .... Done!

Step 3: fully depressed throttle pedal and recorded the TPS (T1) value under logger #4 .... Done!

Step 4: ????
Step 5: ????

Now in steps 4 and 5 i assume im suppose to replace the T0 and T1 with the values I recorded and finish the equation .... but now what do I do with the answers?
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In the UTEC Edit your maps, select the Special Constants map under Parameters. Then put the numbers you calculate into the TPS Min and Max value. Save then go to the Dash Board and with the car not running fully depress the throttle and see what it reads. It should be 100 or a few percent above.
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In the UTEC Edit your maps, select the Special Constants map under Parameters. Then put the numbers you calculate into the TPS Min and Max value. Save then go to the Dash Board and with the car not running fully depress the throttle and see what it reads. It should be 100 or a few percent above.
Ahh under parameters...

TravisSTi I cannot express how helpfull you are being... Thanks a bunch bro!
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Here is a log with 3 turns open on the ABC and the TPS calibrated properly


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2158 -13.0 1.3 0 00 00 23.7 +12.1 2.7 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1929 -12.8 1.3 0 00 00 23.7 +12.1 2.7 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1737 -11.8 2.6 33 10 00 23.7 +2.6 30.2 +4.7 +0.0 207.50 2.5
2286 -9.1 1.5 0 10 00 17.8 +34.5 4.0 ECU. -1.2 ECU. 1.6
2235 -8.5 1.4 0 00 00 15.0 +18.9 4.4 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.4
2115 -7.7 2.3 14 00 00 20.1 +2.6 8.3 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.4
2968 -6.1 2.5 23 00 00 13.9 +7.4 18.4 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.6
4830 -6.3 2.8 23 00 00 13.2 +14.3 27.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.0
4629 -4.5 3.1 23 00 00 12.1 +28.5 15.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 3.3
4768 -1.4 3.5 51 10 00 14.0 +17.9 51.4 +21.8 -1.8 252.50 3.6
4830 +2.1 3.7 91 40 00 rich +19.6 62.1 +21.4 +0.3 350.00 3.8
4873 +6.2 3.8 101 70 00 rich +17.9 73.5 +19.3 +1.8 350.00 3.9
4923 +10.4 3.8 101 70 00 rich +18.7 75.6 +19.7 +1.2 350.00 3.8
5005 +13.3 3.9 101 80 00 rich +20.4 73.8 +19.6 -0.1 350.00 3.8
4990 +14.3 3.8 101 80 00 rich +18.2 73.0 +19.7 -0.1 350.00 3.8
5184 +14.1 3.8 101 70 00 rich +19.2 75.1 +20.6 -0.1 350.00 3.9
5192 +13.7 3.9 101 70 00 rich +19.6 78.5 +20.9 -0.1 350.00 3.9
5333 +13.1 3.9 101 70 00 rich +19.2 83.4 +21.0 -0.5 350.00 3.9
5411 +12.7 3.9 101 70 00 rich +19.6 84.2 +21.0 -0.3 350.00 3.9
5393 +12.3 3.9 100 70 00 rich +19.6 83.7 +21.0 -0.5 350.00 3.9
5611 +11.9 3.9 101 60 00 rich +20.4 84.2 +21.4 -0.3 350.00 3.9
5500 +11.9 4.0 101 70 00 rich +20.6 84.9 +21.0 -0.6 350.00 3.9
5659 +11.5 4.0 101 70 00 rich +20.7 86.8 +21.0 -0.7 350.00 3.9
5717 +12.3 4.0 101 70 00 rich +20.5 87.4 +21.3 -0.8 350.00 3.9
5767 +13.1 4.0 101 80 00 rich +21.7 87.5 +21.7 -0.9 350.00 3.9
5787 +12.7 4.0 101 70 00 rich +22.1 83.5 +21.5 -0.9 350.00 3.9
5941 +13.1 4.0 101 70 00 rich +22.3 87.3 +21.6 -0.9 350.00 4.0
6038 +12.7 4.0 100 70 00 rich +23.3 84.3 +22.4 -0.9 350.00 3.9
6093 +11.3 4.0 100 60 00 rich +22.6 89.2 +22.5 -0.4 350.00 4.0
6093 +11.7 4.0 101 60 00 rich +23.0 86.6 +22.7 -0.4 350.00 3.9
6161 +10.6 4.0 101 60 00 rich +23.0 89.8 +22.7 -0.6 350.00 3.9
6207 +10.4 4.0 100 60 00 rich +24.9 86.2 +22.9 -0.7 350.00 4.0
6325 +11.0 4.0 101 60 00 rich +25.2 87.4 +22.2 -0.7 350.00 4.0
6349 +11.5 4.0 101 70 00 rich +25.7 84.8 +22.4 -1.2 350.00 4.0
6485 +12.5 4.0 101 70 00 rich +25.4 85.5 +22.7 -1.3 350.00 4.0
6459 +12.3 4.0 101 70 00 rich +25.1 84.1 +22.1 -1.5 350.00 3.9
6485 +12.3 4.0 101 60 00 rich +26.2 86.0 +22.2 -1.0 350.00 3.9
6459 +12.1 4.0 101 70 00 rich +26.4 84.9 +22.1 -1.5 350.00 3.9
6626 +11.9 4.0 101 70 00 rich +26.8 84.0 +22.2 -1.5 350.00 3.9
6680 +11.9 4.0 101 60 00 rich +26.6 88.2 +22.4 -1.0 350.00 3.9
6706 +12.1 4.0 101 70 00 rich +26.8 86.6 +22.5 -1.5 350.00 4.0
6720 +11.7 4.0 100 70 00 rich +26.4 90.1 +22.8 -1.4 350.00 4.0
6872 +11.3 4.0 95 60 00 rich +26.5 87.4 +22.9 -0.9 350.00 4.0
6535 +8.4 2.0 0 30 00 rich +10.9 9.4 ECU. -0.8 ECU. 1.8
6230 +2.5 2.0 0 10 00 rich +11.0 10.5 ECU. -1.7 ECU. 2.0
5868 -3.4 2.1 0 10 00 rich +11.1 10.7 ECU. -1.8 ECU. 2.0
5592 -9.1 2.0 0 10 00 rich +11.3 10.7 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 2.0
5350 -12.0 2.0 0 10 00 rich +11.2 10.5 ECU. -1.9 ECU. 2.0
5073 -12.4 2.1 0 10 00 rich +11.1 10.0 ECU. -1.9 ECU. 2.0
4880 -12.4 2.0 0 10 00 rich +11.0 9.0 ECU. -1.2 ECU. 1.9
4604 -12.2 1.9 0 00 00 rich +11.1 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.8
4290 -12.2 1.9 0 00 00 16.7 +11.2 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.8
3982 -12.2 1.8 0 00 00 23.7 +11.3 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.8
3687 -12.2 1.7 0 00 00 23.7 +11.2 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.7
3380 -12.2 1.7 0 00 00 24.2 +11.5 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.7
3106 -12.0 1.6 0 00 00 23.7 +11.6 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.6
2846 -12.0 1.5 0 00 00 23.7 +11.8 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.4
2587 -12.2 1.4 0 00 00 24.2 +11.9 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.4
2355 -12.4 1.4 0 00 00 24.2 +12.1 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.4
2108 -12.6 1.4 0 00 00 24.2 +12.1 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1882 -12.4 1.3 0 00 00 24.2 +12.3 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1639 -12.4 1.3 0 00 00 23.7 +12.5 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1417 -12.2 1.3 0 00 00 23.7 +12.4 10.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1224 -12.0 1.3 0 00 00 23.7 +20.3 2.7 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.3
1219 -11.8 1.2 0 00 00 24.2 +20.7 1.7 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.2
1092 -11.8 1.2 0 00 00 23.7 +20.9 2.2 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.2
965 -11.6 1.3 0 00 00 16.7 +20.8 1.9 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 1.2

and another from the same log
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Originally Posted by Utec Logger 4
3557 +7.6 3.2 30 50 00 rich +16.4 38.7 +16.0 +2.1 205.00 3.3
3711 +7.6 3.3 32 40 00 rich +17.5 39.5 +16.1 +0.9 205.00 3.3
3827 +7.8 3.3 33 40 00 rich +18.1 42.4 +17.0 +0.8 202.50 3.4
3977 +8.0 3.4 48 50 00 rich +16.6 47.4 +17.7 +1.6 245.00 3.5
4095 +8.2 3.4 49 50 00 rich +15.5 52.6 +18.0 +1.5 247.50 3.5
4089 +7.8 2.8 4 40 00 rich +22.8 9.5 ECU. +0.6 240.00 2.1
4171 +4.1 2.0 0 00 00 12.1 +11.3 9.1 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.0
4192 +1.1 3.2 69 10 00 22.4 +21.6 32.2 +23.2 -0.6 ECU. 3.2
3822 +0.0 3.4 92 10 00 13.3 +17.8 39.4 +24.3 -0.2 350.00 3.5
3465 +1.1 3.5 96 40 00 rich +14.2 42.8 +16.7 +1.0 350.00 3.5
3202 +5.9 3.3 96 60 00 rich +12.0 44.2 +15.2 +3.8 350.00 3.4
3330 +10.4 3.3 98 70 00 rich +11.8 47.0 +14.4 +4.2 350.00 3.5
3390 +12.5 3.4 102 70 00 rich +11.6 49.3 +14.2 +4.1 350.00 3.5
3472 +13.1 3.4 101 70 00 rich +11.5 50.9 +14.3 +4.0 350.00 3.5
3494 +13.3 3.4 101 70 00 rich +11.7 52.4 +14.5 +3.9 350.00 3.6
3639 +13.3 3.4 101 70 00 rich +11.2 53.4 +14.3 +3.9 350.00 3.6
3703 +13.1 3.5 101 70 00 rich +12.2 55.6 +14.4 +3.8 350.00 3.6
3770 +13.1 3.5 101 70 00 rich +12.3 56.9 +15.2 +3.7 350.00 3.7
3880 +12.7 3.5 101 70 00 rich +13.4 60.9 +15.9 +3.6 350.00 3.7
3930 +12.9 3.5 101 70 00 rich +13.9 59.2 +16.0 +3.6 350.00 3.6
3996 +12.5 3.6 101 70 00 rich +14.8 61.2 +16.6 +3.5 350.00 3.7
4105 +12.9 3.6 101 70 00 rich +14.6 66.4 +16.7 +3.2 350.00 3.7
4182 +13.5 3.6 101 80 00 rich +15.0 65.0 +16.6 +3.1 350.00 3.7
4301 +12.7 3.7 101 70 00 rich +16.0 67.3 +17.0 +2.9 350.00 3.7
4345 +13.3 3.6 101 70 00 rich +15.7 68.0 +17.0 +2.9 350.00 3.7
4420 +13.3 3.6 101 80 00 rich +15.3 69.2 +17.0 +2.9 350.00 3.7
4468 +12.7 3.7 101 70 00 rich +16.0 68.8 +17.0 +2.9 350.00 3.8
4604 +12.7 3.7 101 60 00 rich +16.4 70.6 +17.7 +2.5 350.00 3.8
4623 +12.1 3.8 101 60 00 rich +16.1 71.3 +18.1 +2.5 350.00 3.8
4789 +11.9 3.8 101 70 00 rich +17.4 73.7 +19.2 +0.2 350.00 3.8
4823 +12.1 3.7 100 70 00 rich +17.8 76.1 +19.2 +1.8 350.00 3.9
4887 +12.7 3.8 100 70 00 rich +18.2 76.5 +19.7 +1.0 350.00 3.8
4967 +12.9 3.8 100 70 00 rich +20.2 74.7 +20.3 +0.7 350.00 3.8
4990 +12.9 3.8 101 70 00 rich +17.3 73.8 +20.6 -0.1 350.00 3.8
5035 +12.7 3.8 101 70 00 rich +17.1 78.3 +20.9 -0.1 350.00 3.9
5144 +12.3 3.9 101 70 00 rich +18.9 78.7 +21.0 -0.1 350.00 3.8
5192 +12.1 3.9 101 70 00 rich +19.3 77.1 +21.0 -0.1 350.00 3.9
5333 +12.7 3.9 101 70 00 rich +19.4 83.8 +21.0 -0.5 350.00 3.9
5350 +12.9 4.0 90 70 00 rich +19.3 81.7 +21.0 -0.4 350.00 3.9
5402 +13.3 3.9 84 70 00 rich +20.4 83.8 +21.0 -0.5 335.00 3.9
5621 +13.3 3.9 89 70 00 rich +20.9 82.6 +21.0 -0.6 347.50 3.9
5509 +12.5 4.0 93 60 00 rich +20.7 85.8 +21.2 -0.4 350.00 3.9
5649 +11.7 4.0 85 60 00 rich +20.7 84.5 +21.7 -0.4 337.50 3.9
5717 +8.6 1.9 0 30 00 rich +11.0 8.6 ECU. -1.1 ECU. 1.8
5500 +2.9 2.0 0 10 00 rich +11.2 10.6 ECU. -1.7 ECU. 2.0
5216 -2.8 2.0 0 10 00 rich +11.2 10.4 ECU. -1.9 ECU. 2.0
4975 -8.5 2.0 0 10 00 12.8 +11.1 10.1 ECU. -1.8 ECU. 2.0
4741 -11.8 2.1 0 00 00 12.8 +11.0 24.0 ECU. +0.0 ECU. 2.1

my first 14's.. which is a good sign imj headed in the right direction

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I think at this point your going to have to tune your UTEC Maps instead of continuing to open the ABC. It would be nice to know what your AFR's are running as well.
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I think at this point your going to have to tune your UTEC Maps instead of continuing to open the ABC. It would be nice to know what your AFR's are running as well.
I got a TBE coming soon.. im hoping it will arrive tommorow. Then I will load the stage 2 map and see where I stand

OK would you recommend I tune it while the ABC is open 2 turns or would you recommend I close it and then tune and if need be or If i can only get my boost to 15 then i would open it at that time?

I just wanns say it again also man...

You dident have to respond, you dident have to read my logs, you dident have to be so cool about it... and you dident have to give me such usefull advice...

BUT YOU DID

and for that I thank you bro

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The ABC will change your whole boost curve, as where editing your map you can smooth out the curve at specific points so it ramps up and down properly. So once you have a good boost curve if the whole curve is still short of your boost target then you can open the abc to affect the whole boost curve.

and np bud glad I could help
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The ABC will change your whole boost curve, as where editing your map you can smooth out the curve at specific points so it ramps up and down properly. So once you have a good boost curve if the whole curve is still short of your boost target then you can open the abc to affect the whole boost curve.

and np bud glad I could help
Sweet.. advice in left hand .... Manual in the Right .... Im off to tune!
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You really want to be in a gear (no shifting) from around 2K rpms and log from there. Also, you're going "rich" quickly based off of the stock O2 sensor. There's a whole lot to learn though so you will spend lots of time doing this

You can not tune even half your map with stock O2 but you can damn be sure to increase spool by leaning out the AFR in the lower columns and increasing your boost onset number.

For now, I wouldn't worry too much about max boost (just keep it low) and work on your spool up and AFR in the first third of the maps. Your primary concern is to smooth it all out. You will not, however, be able to progress any further in the tune without a way to view the actual AFR. Proceed at your own risk
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Try opening your ABC one more turn. Then try CLB values of 370. Put 370 in your 90% and 100% column and then your TPS wont matter as much.
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^^I think he needs to work on getting his fuelling in the "ballpark" before he starts cranking up the boost. Just my opinion.
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^^I think he needs to work on getting his fuelling in the "ballpark" before he starts cranking up the boost. Just my opinion.
I don't think there is a wide-band involved here....so it's typicall for the stock A/F to read rich or lean and be completely inaccurate.


Also to the thread starter - Read mick the ginge's guide it's pretty awesome. Get a wideband and fix your A/F because with a TXS base map it's likely not smoothed out perfect. Or get a tune somewhere, lol.
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....so it's typicall for the stock A/F to read rich or lean and be completely inaccurate.

I don't agree. My stock O2 reads hand-n-hand with my LM-1 WB until it goes rich on the stock O2. This is why above I mentioned that the lower part of the map could be tuned using just the stock O2. It's been done before many times.

The problem here is that you can only go so far. The small stock turbo comes on quickly so that doesn't give you much to work with in regards to rpms and boost.

For example, you don't want to be at 11.2:1 AFR and 7psi of boost. That rich mixture normally isn't neccessary with such low boost. On his logs above, he's already past rich just as soon as the ECU sees boost. To an extent, this can be sorted out using the stock O2, but again, you can only do so much without the WB.
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I don't agree. My stock O2 reads hand-n-hand with my LM-1 WB until it goes rich on the stock O2. This is why above I mentioned that the lower part of the map could be tuned using just the stock O2. It's been done before many times.
Awesome info, that's nice to know. I guess I never paid attention to my stocker...
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Would I be wrong in thinking that the Stage 1 map is meant to run 16 Psi and if im not boosting that high wouldent that cause some richness?

So if i work my boost up just a bit so im at least reaching 15 then it might lean out?
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No because if you raise the boost, you go into a different column in the fuel map.
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