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Old 03-08-2006, 02:17 PM   #1
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Default '97 2.5 GT with cracked block...options?

I just got a call from my ex-gf and she was pretty much in tears over her Legacy that she bought a week or two ago. She overheated it this weekend and brought it to the shop and found out that the block is cracked. So, what options does she have here as far as swaps go? How hard would an EJ20 swap be over just replacing the EJ25? Will the stock Legacy tranny hold the power from a WRX engine? I have zero experience with the Legacy so any advice or links to other GTs with swaps would be appreciated.
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Old 03-08-2006, 03:20 PM   #2
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I have an engine for you. Stock.
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Old 03-08-2006, 04:55 PM   #3
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To answer your question, while her car would be quite compatible with a WRX swap, it's quite expensive. Including labor, expect it to run you $6000-9000. Really her best bet is to find another stock engine and replace it. There are a number of importers around the country that stock replacements that run around $1500 or so. You could also get it rebuilt at a reputible builder like CCR here in Colorado. What they would do is ship you a rebuilt engine and you would ship them back your core for a nominal refund on your purchase...
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andys, how much for the engine? Shipping to Iowa would probably cost quite a bit as well.

Matt, thanks for the detailed reply. She's not working right now (in school) so it sounds like an EJ20 swap would be out of the question...
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:07 AM   #5
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Was it a dealer you took the car too? I've only seen one block crack in the hundreds of 2.5 DOHC engines that I've done headgaskets on. The only reason it cracked is because they drove it until it wouldn't move anymore. It took a chunk about 1" long and 1/4" deep out from between the cylinders, so cylinders 1 and 3 had no compression.

The dealers seem to tell everyone that has a 1996-1999 Outback, Legacy GT, or 1998 Forester that complains of overheating problems that they have a "seperated sleeve" or "Cracked Block". About 25% of the cars i've done headgaskets on have been cars that were taken to the dealer first, and then quoted somewhere in the 5-7k range for a new engine (New Heads, New Shortblock, New Oil Pump, Water Pump, Radiator, Gaskets, Seals and Labor).

After they were all apart, everything usually checks out just fine. We usually end up taking the heads apart and re lapping the valves and replacing all of the guide seals, and then doing the normal headgasket job. On the ones that have overheated (somewhere up into the red), we will put piston rings in also because overheating tends to make the oil rings loose their tension, and the engines will consume alot of oil. The radiator also gets replaced as the hydrocarbons that get into the cooling system weaken the plastic in the radiators and can cause them to split, which is not what you want happening after doing a headgasket job. That work should cost somewhere around 1800-2500 at an independent shop. That work at the dealer would cost around the 4k range.


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Old 03-09-2006, 01:35 PM   #6
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Yeah, she took it to the Subaru dealer in Waterloo, IA. They quoted her at around $3K for a new engine. Thanks for the info.
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