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Old 03-08-2006, 07:10 PM   #1
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Wow, great forum and just in time. I'm about to embark on a water/alky system, although it's not going in my WRX. I have another project car with a supercharger and no room for an intercooler. W/I is the best way to get the intake temps down. So, what and how big are the holding tanks being used? I was thinking I want it to hold a gallon of mix, but haven't decided where to get the tank. I'm leaning toward using a system made by enginerunup as he's located near me and has been very responsive to my never ending questions. So, give me some thoughts on the tank and keep this forum going, it's really helpful.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:17 PM   #2
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What's it going in? Get the Spec C tank from Rallispec (12 Liters) and throw it in the trunk! Since you aren't going to be running an IC, then you will probably want it to hold plenty of juice.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:40 PM   #3
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Well, since you asked, it's going in a 68 Alfa Romeo Giulia GT Jr with a 2.0 engine, an Eaton supercharger and an ACCEL stand alone programable FI. I built this car about 6 years ago and it's been a never ending project. Actually had it running pretty good till I blew the engine during time trials at Lime Rock Track in Ct. I split the number one cylinder liner!! Probably detenation(sp?) althought my EGT and A/F looked good at the time it went. WAHOO driving on glycol is no fun! I'll check out that 12 liter tank although I'm probably going to mount it behind the passenger seat so I can visably check it on a reagular basis. In the trunk to me is out of sight, out of mind.
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:44 PM   #4
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Well hell, if you don't need it in the trunk, by all means don't put it in there! (though I don't know if it's a good idea to have in the cabin with you )
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Old 03-08-2006, 07:56 PM   #5
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Anyone else think its not a good idea to have it in the cabin?
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Old 03-08-2006, 08:20 PM   #6
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If you run a 50/50 mix of meth/H2O then there is really no risk at all to placing in cabin, straight methanol I am not sure if I would really want to be sitting next to go forbid you get in an accident. Do you have a stock windshield washer tank? If so you can mount a fitting on that and use that. That is what I do now.
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Old 03-08-2006, 09:06 PM   #7
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No stock windsheild washer tank, but that what I was looking for on Ebay. there were quite a few, just not sure what their capacity was. Guess I need to question the seller. I was only planning on a 50/50 or less mix. I'm only running 8 psi with 9:1 CR. I originally was only going to use H2O for its cooling properties, but after doing more research I've decided to add the Meth so that I can advance my timing a bit. Got no room under the hood, but might put it in the trunk and install a low level warning switch.
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Old 03-09-2006, 12:42 AM   #8
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Anyone thought of using their IC sprayer tank in the trunk as a holding tank. Since most of us with Meth or Alky injection this isn't our first mod chances are you have a FMIC, and to put that IC sprayer tank to good use drill a hole in your meth under the hood, and put the hose into it(sealing it good). Then when you are running low just hit the switch to transfer meth(I stick a cut zip tie to hold it down), it could work, I think ...

p.s. For storing in your garage, what would be a better container, a metal gas can, or plastic?

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Old 03-09-2006, 03:11 AM   #9
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p.s. For storing in your garage, what would be a better container, a metal gas can, or plastic?
A 16 gallon metal drum it is sold in is best. Can be lifted by one person. When sealed tightly, the methanol will not absorb water.
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Old 03-09-2006, 03:14 AM   #10
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... I've decided to add the Meth so that I can advance my timing a bit.
You must also lean out the air fuel mixture. Otherwise you will be running very rich with the additional methanol fuel.
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Old 03-09-2006, 06:31 AM   #11
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Snow performance has several bolt-down tanks - check Jegs and Summitt.
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Old 03-09-2006, 09:42 AM   #12
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I remember seeing a rally car with a WI "tank" in the trunk that was a bag. I asked "why a bag", and was told it was to prevent starvation in long sweeper-type turns. Anybody know anything about the "bag-style" "tanks"?
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Old 03-09-2006, 10:31 AM   #13
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I've heard of tanks with bladders, but it's usually for safety.
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:04 AM   #14
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i had actualy wondered the same thing if a standard "box" tank would get starvation in a sustained G turn espically at low fill .. i already have proublems with this with the fuel tank .. it would be as disasterous as a pump failure ..

a bladder in box setup would be nice ..
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Old 03-09-2006, 11:34 AM   #15
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I use a three gallon fuel cell that is strapped down in the trunk. I got it for around 80 bux. Works great.
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i just looked at summit there have
1 gal for 89
3 gal for 89
3 gal for 85

edit: these are fuel cells not "tanks"

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Old 03-09-2006, 05:37 PM   #17
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This is what I was refering to


it's $49 for Jegs
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I also sell this tank but it is a massive 8gallon tank primarily used for trucks. If anyone is interested in either snow tanks let me know.
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Hmm, don't see why I couldn't just buy a gallon lawn mower style gas container at the local hardware store and tap it. May not be pretty, but I imagine if I strap it in the trunk nobody's going to see it anyway. Would be a heck of a lot cheaper I think.
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Old 03-09-2006, 07:08 PM   #20
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We have a selection of tanks.

this is our 2.5 gallon. We carry 2 quart, 1 gallon, 2.5 gallon and 6 gallon. All of our tanks are listed here:

http://coolingmist.com/pagedisplay.a...ey=Water_tanks


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I really like your guys 1gal tank, makes for clean installs
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Old 03-14-2006, 10:08 AM   #22
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hmm the 6 galon tank might be just what i need for track days, need to do some measuring to see if i have enough space in the trunk
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