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Old 03-10-2006, 02:44 PM   #1
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********** Updated: 23rd February 2014 **********

It is a good time to do a complete listing of current water/alky injection manufacturers and their product. Specifications, capabilities and price range. It is a copy post from EVOM a few months ago and have proved to be useful to most potential WIA users.

I will start and fill-in more manufacturers as more information is available:

Activeautowerke
Location: Active Autowerke Miami, Florida, USA.
Capabilities: Adjustable manifold pressure activation
Pump: Shurflo
Electronic Controller option:: No details
Chemical compatibility: Water, Alcohol
Failsafe: not mentioned on site
Price range: US$1200.00
Warranty: Not mentioned on site
URL: http://activeautowerke.com/cooling/main.php
EMAIL: [email protected]

AEM
Location: Hawthorne CA 90250 USA.
Capabilities: Progressive delivery proportional to IDC/MAP sensor.
Pump: Aquatec with by-pass USA
Electronic Controller::Based on pump speed to vary pressure/ flow.
Chemical compatibility: Water, methanol
Failsafe: Turbine Flow sensor based as an option from US$277.
Price range: US$422-450
Warranty: 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol URL: http://www.aemelectronics.com/water-...ction-kits-23/
EMAIL: [email protected]

AIS
Location: No address published, believed to be USA.
Capabilities: Progressive delivery proportional to manifold pressure and any 0-5V signal.
Pump: Aquatec with by-pass USA
Electronic Controller:: Based on pump speed to vary pressure/ flow.
Chemical compatibility: Water, methanol
Failsafe: No option on site.
Price range: US$468.99-659.00
Warranty: 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol URL: http://www.alcoholinjectionsystems.com/index.html/
[color=Navy] PHONE: 1-801-447-2559

Alkycontrol
Location: Alkycontrol. USA.
Capabilities: Progressive delivery proportional to MAP sensor. Inline filter, metal fittings, and stainless steel braided lines.
Pump: Shurflo
Electronic Controller::Based on PAC module controlling pump speed to vary pressure
Chemical compatibility: Water, Alcohol
Failsafe: Failsafe Bi-colored LED works of pressure sensing, inline filter, metal fittings, and stainless steel braided lines.
Price range: from: US$425-495
Warranty: 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol URL: http://www.alkycontrol.com/
EMAIL: Online form or phone

Aquamist
Location: ERL Ltd, East Sussex, England.
Capabilities: PWM inline valve and electronic controller
Pump: 160psi by-pass Aquatec pump
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol. 100% methanol.
Failsafe: Turbine flow sensor- full time monitoring with in- dash gauge. boost drop and map switching output.
Price range: US$550-850.
Warranty: 12 months
URL: www.aquamist-direct.com
EMAIL: [email protected] (sales enquiry), [email protected] (technical)

Aquastealth
Location: Not specified, somewhere in USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, Pressure switch activated inline solenoid.
Pump: Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water and Methanol.
Failsafe: unspecified
Price range: US$199.00
Warranty: Not mentioned on site
URL: www.aquastealth.com
EMAIL: [email protected]

Coolingmist
Location: No shop address. believed to be USA based.
Capabilities: Progressive, Static flow single or dual stage
Electronic Controller: Digital Programmable "progressive" style controller capable. Pump speed based.
Pump: Aquatec USA
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol.
Failsafe:: Pump current monitoring - no flow sensor option.
Price range: US$270 to $899.95
Warranty: 1 Year Warranty
URL: www.coolingmist.com
EMAIL: [email protected]

Devilsown
Location: Oklahoma City, Ok USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, PWM pump speed control option
Electronic controller option: 0-5v (selectable scales 2 bar,3 bar,voltage) pump speed based system.
Pump: Custom Aquatec USA
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol safe (EPDM Seals)
Failsafe: None.
Price range: US$380-460
Warranty: One Year Limited
www.alcohol-injection.com
EMAIL: sales@.alcohol-injection.com (sales inquiry), [email protected] (technical)

Hydramist by Element Tuning
(Work with Hydra EMS only)

Location: WA, USA.
Capabilities: Full 3D hi-res mappable, inbuilt failsafe.
Electronic controller: Element Hydra stand-alone EMS.
Pump: Shurflo (150W), with 160psi internal by-pass
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol, Ethanol, Iso-propyl
Failsafe: DDS3 flow sensing system - auto map switching via DDS3 v7.
Price range: US$799.00 not including Hydra EMS
Warranty: Not yet specified
EMAIL: [email protected]
URL: www.elementtuning.com

RSR
Location: RB Racing, California, USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, Port injection
Pump: Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol.
Failsafe: water level switch
Price range: US$745.00-795.00
Warranty: call
URL: www.rbracing-rsr.com/waterinjection.html

Snow Performance
Location: Snow Performance, Colorado, USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, solenoid
Electronic controller option: Progressive pump speed controller +$129.00
Pump: Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, Methanol
Failsafe: turbine flow sensor- boost bypass, map switch.
Price range: US$604 - 803 (IDC/MAP/MAF vs Pump speed)
Warranty: limited option by vendor
URL: http://snowperformance.net
EMAIL: [email protected]



More detailed information below. I will continue to update and add more maker. But for the time being I start with the familiar ones for the Subaru. (Feb 2014)




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Old 03-10-2006, 02:46 PM   #2
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now only if we can get the suby specific instead of evo, but great find ; )
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Old 03-10-2006, 03:09 PM   #3
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Quote:
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now only if we can get the suby specific instead of evo, but great find ; )
The makers are not EVO aspecific, given the size of Subie community, it wouldn't be difficult to approach them to produce a Subie spercific kit.

Most of them, if not ALL sell a universal kit anyway.
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Old 03-13-2006, 06:03 PM   #4
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Awesome post.
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Old 03-16-2006, 07:55 PM   #5
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Here is a website for another kit. They mainly go on DSMs but I know a few have been installed on local Evos and probably several other cars...

English Racing Methanol Kits

I'm at work so I don't have time right now to break it all down like above. I'll look into it tomorrow when I get home...

I know everyone wanted another option
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Old 03-16-2006, 09:12 PM   #6
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This is excellent find, thank you. I will add the new maker onto the list. If you can break it down it will be great help. it is a very busy month for me, the racing season is just about to begin in Europe, everyone rolls out their cars from storage.

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Old 04-22-2006, 05:53 AM   #7
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New kid on the block - kit was first shown at the 2004 SEMA show.



I believe the kit is a no thrill, plain and simple unit that meets all the usual requirement of a progressive kit.

little info on the kit here I copied from the st/ty site:

Applications and Features:

Charge-air cooling for force induction engines
Minimizing the onset of detonation
Suitable to run water and alcohol mixtures
"Plug and Play" controller for ease of installation
All components are properly engineered for reliable operation
Intermittent diaphragm pump- more reliable than the normal windshield washer pump
Built in Thermal-Cut in water pump
Enable "Meaner & Leaner" air / fuel ratio
Increase octane rating on low grade pump fuel
Dash controller allows real-time user flow control with status LEDs
Only three wires needed to be connected for total control
Can be used with any 0-5V load sensors
Inline 100 micron stainless steel filter



Description:

The system is comprised of a dash-mounted controller and a high-pressure diaphragm pump designed to receive a Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) signal from the controller.

The pump can be used with a high concentration of alcohol (75%) as well as just water alone; this is particularly useful for applications where alcohol can enhance the fuel octane or just asadditional fuel at high boost levels. It is recommended that alcohol be added for cold operating conditions.

The Dash controller only measures 2.3" x 1.4" x 0.6" tall, perfectly suited to fit into any small cockpit space. Although small in size, it contains all the necessary controls to enable the user to cover the'mid' to 'high' load range of any 0-5V output MAP sensor.

Injection triggering point is set by the 'THRESHOLD' potentiometer and is indicated by a blue LED on the controller. It is user adjustable between 1.5-4.5V. Adjustment to this potentiometer will determine the starting point of the water injection system. As shown in the chart below, 1.5V of a 2 bar MAP sensor represents approximately 0.4 bar below atmosphere (vacuum), while a 3 bar sensor represents almost atmospheric pressure.

The injection % range is set by the 'GAIN' potentiometer on the controller. As the red LED lights up, it indicates about 80% of full injection and will continue to get brighter until it approaches 100%. The gain potentiometer can be set to arrive at any level at any boost.

The water injection system can be switched off via an 'ON/OFF' push button, indicated by a green LED on the controller.

This latest 'Plug and Play' water injection from Turbonetics sets a new standard for the growing water injection market currently shared by many new water injection manufacturers.

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Old 08-30-2006, 09:03 PM   #8
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Warranty Alkycontrol 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol

Failsafe Bi-colored LED works of pressure sensing, inline filter, metal fittings, and stainless steel braided lines.

HTH
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Old 09-01-2006, 05:34 PM   #9
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Warranty Alkycontrol 1 year unconditional and 100% methanol

Failsafe Bi-colored LED works of pressure sensing, inline filter, metal fittings, and stainless steel braided lines.

HTH
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I have updated your company information above.

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I have updated your company information above.

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Old 11-03-2006, 10:46 PM   #11
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I realize the factory pump wont work for this, but does the factory STI spray system reservoir and plumbing have enough capacity to supply water/meth to this system? IOW, can any of these kits take advantage of the factory STI spray reservoir to make installation easier and maybe save a few dollars?
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Old 11-13-2006, 09:29 AM   #12
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Richard,

Could you please update our info both here and on the Evo forums?

Location: Atlanta (Norcross), Georgia, USA.
Capabilities: Progressive, Static flow – single or dual stage
Electronic Controller: Digital Programmable "progressive" style controller capable of 2d Maping. Optional Commander for datalog, digital display.1-30 psi sensor or 4-120 psi.
Pump: Custom Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol safe (EPDM Seals)
Failsafe: hi/lo system pressure switch to detect loss of pressure or clogged jet. Upcoming Vari-Safe Smart Injection
Price range: US$299.95 to $999.95
Warranty: 1 Year Warranty
URL: www.coolingmist.com
EMAIL: [email protected]

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Old 11-14-2006, 05:38 AM   #13
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Richard,

Could you please update our info both here and on the Evo forums?

Location: Atlanta (Norcross), Georgia, USA.
Capabilities: Progressive, Static flow single or dual stage
Electronic Controller: Digital Programmable "progressive" style controller capable of 2d Maping. Optional Commander for datalog, digital display.1-30 psi sensor or 4-120 psi.
Pump: Custom Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol safe (EPDM Seals)
Failsafe: hi/lo system pressure switch to detect loss of pressure or clogged jet. Upcoming Vari-Safe Smart Injection
Price range: US$299.95 to $999.95
Warranty: 1 Year Warranty
URL: www.coolingmist.com
EMAIL: [email protected]

It is done.
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Old 11-17-2006, 06:49 PM   #14
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Just an update for the SMC kit details:

According to SMC Steve his latest pump model can support; Water, Ethanol, Methanol, and Isopropyl alcohol types.

Additionally the Element Tuning “Hydramist” kit is also available and not listed…
http://www.elementtuning.com/Hydrami...ationguide.htm
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Old 11-18-2006, 06:35 PM   #15
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Just updated it.

Thanks for the reminder.
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Can you update our info here richad.

Location: Oklahoma City, Ok USA.
Capabilities: Static flow, PWM pump speed control option
Electronic controller option: 0-5v (selectable scales 2 bar,3 bar,voltage) – pump speed control . Price US$125.00
Pump: Custom Shurflo
Chemical compatibility: Water, 100% Methanol safe (EPDM Seals)
Failsafe: over-current sensing
Price range: US$205.00-305.00 + MAP sensor
Warranty: One Year Limited
URL: http://www.alcohol-injection.com
EMAIL: [email protected] (sales inquiry), [email protected] (technical)

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The Element Hydramist was developed from the beginning to be the ultimate water/methanol injection with uncompromised performance, control, and safety. The Hydramist is a fully integrated water/methanol injection solution controlled via the Hydra EMS. This system allows full 3D mapping of water flow based on load and rpm, automatic map switching, and unparalleled protection never seen before in any water/methanol injection system. When we first set out to develop a water/methanol injection system we discovered very quickly the limitations of most universal systems in that they rarely offered precise control over the injection or the failsafe mechanisms were insufficient at protecting the engine when failure occurred. To help develop a superior system for the Hydra EMS Element Tuning worked with the industry leader in water/methanol injection systems, Aquamist.

I'll continued to add to this first post as time permits.

Here is the Hydramist Installation Guide:

http://www.elementtuning.com/Hydrami...amistguide.htm

Thanks,
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Perrin's new progressive water injection system launched at SEMA 2006







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Old 12-21-2006, 01:54 AM   #19
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That Perrin Kit is like auto Art - great looking stuff
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System 4U: URD'S Advanced Hi-Flow Water & Methanol Kit



URD has a powerful, full featured methanol and water injection kit utilizing the best and latest Aquamist parts.

This kit is much like the popular Aquamist 2D system, but it also comes with a DDS3, an accumulator, and a high flow pump.

Some Parts Include:

* Latest DDS3 (Junction Box 7A) Kit with Water Level Sensor
* Aquamist High Speed Valve (806-244)
* 150W Pump with 125PSI By-Pass Valve (806-075)
* Water Tank Adaptor (806-270)
* 22cc Surge Arrestor Assembly
* Three Water Jets of Choice
* Aquamist FIA/DDS3 Harness and Pump Harness
* M8 Tap for Water Jet (806-284)
* 4mm Y-Piece (806-261)
* 40A Pump Relay (806-286)
* Stainless 100 Micron Filter (806-257)
* 21 Feet of Nylon Hose (806-266 - 806-261)

This Kit will be Available at an Introductory Price of $899 thru 12/31/2006.
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Old 02-11-2007, 12:20 PM   #21
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Thank you for this AWESOME POST!!
planning to go MEth'd
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Old 08-11-2007, 10:21 AM   #22
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Default HFS-1 is added to the Aquamist range (July 07)

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In the interest of keeping this great thread updated.

S-HSV kits available now from Coolingmist.com. Available in trunkmount, underhood, with or without stainless hose.

S-HSV (Super High Speed Valve) is a new product from Coolingmist that eliminates the issues of slower PWM pump style activation by using fast actuating valves. Vari-Cool is fully configurable including MIN, MAX and TUNE, Dutycycle and Curve. Free software and serial cable are included. Computer tuning is NOT required, but will allow for fine tuning.





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Default Aqusmist IDC tracking system HFS 5-idc

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Almost fogotten the HFS-5 above...
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