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Old 03-15-2006, 05:00 PM   #1
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Default Hydra+Apex AVCR

I was wondering if any hyrda users are using the apex avcr for boost control. A lot of people recommend using the apexi avcr since you can do gear selected boost control and that its very beneficial for large turbos to help aid in spool up. Anyone using one along with the hydra.
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Old 03-15-2006, 06:11 PM   #2
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I just used an AVCR on a Hydra I tuned yesterday with an internal gate. The biggest advantage is the rpm based duty % control. This allows finer control when using internal wastegates to control spike or drop off. If you are using an external wastegate something simpler will do the trick. Gear based boost control is also nice.

My personal favorites are the TurboSmart E-Boost and the Blitz SBC-ID. They are simple, work extremely well and are reliable. I have also tuned the Hydra EMS boost control system utilizing aftermarket solenoids (Prodrive, Perrin) and it works extremely well with external wastegates plus it has gear based boost control built in.

All the boost controllers mentioned are a solid choice.

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Old 03-15-2006, 06:42 PM   #3
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i have a prodrive unit but have not installed it and was about to sell it because i was thinking if im going with a gt35r might as well get a electronic boost controller. However if the prodrive works nicely with the hydra i might keep it.
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Old 03-16-2006, 11:50 AM   #4
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Bump, also is there any benefit to running the apexi avcr with the Hydra over any other boost controller besides the gear specific boost.
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Old 03-16-2006, 03:02 PM   #5
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With a 35R and a good external wastegate no. The units I recommended are reliable and easy to use. These are very important details. We've had boost controller fail most likely due to extreme under hood temps and that usually results in a blown engine.

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Old 03-16-2006, 04:46 PM   #6
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I've been using the AVCR with a tial 44mm gate and Gt30r turbo for the past few weeks. Phil tuned the car and was able to get the controller holding boost perfect within a few minutes. I've also been messing around with the controller with a friend of mine so we could dial in the gear boost and other stuff like that. Very easy to use once you know what each feature does.

I've also heard the Blitz SBC-id is awsome. From what i've read its easier to setup than the AVCR and it also has room to hold 5 maps over the 2 that the AVCR can store.

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Old 04-12-2006, 05:06 AM   #7
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quick question about the AVCR since you guys talking about it right now. I just put my TBE on, and it's spiking to almost 21PSi (stock VF39) do you guys think that I can control the spike with the AVCR even without using Hydra? thank you
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:12 PM   #8
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Yes, anything can control better than the stock solenoid.
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Old 04-17-2006, 02:11 PM   #9
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how about a mbc with external gate w/ hydra. Anyone running that ? Or is everyone running an ebc like avcr, turbosmart, blitz ?
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Old 04-17-2006, 03:28 PM   #10
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With an external gate even an MBC will work well. The down side is that with any boost control system you get fluctuations from temperature changes but with an electronic it's an easy in cabin change where most MBC require you to pop the hood and make an adjustment.

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