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Old 04-10-2007, 07:29 PM   #126
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I tell ya, after you do one set, it's a breeze. We removed/reinstalled a set on a friends car including GBODs and it took an hour.

You can re-use o-rings if they are immaculate. The problem is, they usually aren't, and they are partially torn or marred from the removal process.

The big isolators are always almost fine to re-use. It's just the o-ring that seals in the fuel rail that is the problem.
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Old 04-10-2007, 07:59 PM   #127
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^^ I had 100 miles on my wagon and I tried to reuse the o-rings, 3 days later after ordering the o-rings I finally got the car running.

It is never worth the risk to reuse any o-rings or any gaskets in the exhaust sytem pre-turbo. Time is woth more $ then $.05-20.00 in simple parts.

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Old 04-10-2007, 08:14 PM   #128
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So if you can use "side feed" injectors in a "top feed" setup, what's the point in even making a distinction if they just pop right in?
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Old 04-10-2007, 08:21 PM   #129
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You do not want to use side feed injectors in a top feed car they will not seal correctly. Even most AM fuel rails are injector specific.

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Old 04-10-2007, 09:38 PM   #130
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i'm assuming this write up is the same for an 04 as well?
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:51 PM   #131
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Yes you are correct

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i'm assuming this write up is the same for an 04 as well?
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Old 04-10-2007, 09:54 PM   #132
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i'm assuming this write up is the same for an 04 as well?
Yes sir.

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Old 04-10-2007, 11:53 PM   #133
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^^ I had 100 miles on my wagon and I tried to reuse the o-rings, 3 days later after ordering the o-rings I finally got the car running.

It is never worth the risk to reuse any o-rings or any gaskets in the exhaust sytem pre-turbo. Time is woth more $ then $.05-20.00 in simple parts.

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Noob question here...

Where do you get the o-rings from? Are they a standard size that you can pick up from a hardware store or plumbing dept. or do you get them from either a suby dealer or automotive parts store?
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Old 04-11-2007, 12:53 PM   #134
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Mcmasster carr http://www.mcmaster.com I will post the part # when I find my bag. I paid like $8 for 50 if I recall. I sent a lot of members free o-rings so I dont have any left.

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:29 PM   #135
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Mcmasster carr http://www.mcmaster.com I will post the part # when I find my bag. I paid like $8 for 50 if I recall. I sent a lot of members free o-rings so I dont have any left.

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Cool, thanks! Are they automotive specific (like to handle heat and fuel), or just regular o-rings?
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:42 PM   #136
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mcmaster.com the 8mm ID by 2mm thick o-rings exact match. Part #9263K169. Made out of Viton which are the oil/gas resistant kind.


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Old 04-17-2007, 10:59 AM   #137
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mcmaster.com the 8mm ID by 2mm thick o-rings exact match. Part #9263K169. Made out of Viton which are the oil/gas resistant kind.

Jay-R
Found a local shop who got me a bag of 20 of the viton ones in this size for around 50cents each. Thanks for the info!

Next question: should I order the bigger rubber isolater things too just in case? Anyone have a part number or size for these? And is there a specific type of rubber used that I need to specify when ordering?

Thanks!
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:19 AM   #138
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^^ The isolaters should be fine, probably no need to order. They just slide on and off the incectors.
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Old 04-17-2007, 11:48 AM   #139
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Just flip them over when you install the new injectors.

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Old 04-20-2007, 01:13 PM   #140
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This might make things easier to explain:



not shown: 3 bolts securing fuel rail and hardlines to intake manifold. remove these, and the rail will pull the injectors out of their holes in the manifold.

pop out the injectors from the rail (thin rubber o-rings hold injectors in rails).

the isolators are thick rubber, I used motor oil. new o-rings lubed in gas, pop them into the rail first. second, lower the rail and injectors into the holes in the manifold. secure the lines/rails to the manifold with 3 bolts.
Just to be clear, are there 3 rubber bits on each sti pink injector?

I just looked at the used ones I got, and they each have the small o-ring at the top (the side opposite where the fuel sprays out), and they have the rubber isolater below that. But that is all.

Is there a 3rd o-ring or rubber isolater bit that is supposed to be near the bottom?

I can't take my stockers out for reference just yet - I want to make sure I have any parts I might need on hand before I do the install! Thanks.
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:19 PM   #141
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Great instructions, but i think people make this job sound a lot harder than it actually is.
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Old 04-20-2007, 01:22 PM   #142
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im such a noob at install
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Old 04-20-2007, 05:45 PM   #143
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Correct, everyone is over thinking this. Just get new o-rings and reuse all the other rubber. Keep it simple.

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Great instructions, but i think people make this job sound a lot harder than it actually is.
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:31 PM   #144
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Get new o-rings.

I did my install and re-used the orings, and when I started the car, fuel just poured like crazy onto the shop floor. I had to tear the freakin' beast apart again to replace them all. Not fun!
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Old 04-20-2007, 06:38 PM   #145
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^^ If you do not put the GBOD's back on you can change all injectors in less than 30 minutes.

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Old 04-29-2007, 07:57 PM   #146
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anyone have four they want to mail me? i figure i'd ask before i order 25 off of mcmasters
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Old 07-14-2007, 08:35 PM   #147
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Saw that you removed a coolant reservior tank to get to the passenger side. Did you drain your coolant prior to this install??
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Old 07-14-2007, 09:00 PM   #148
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^^ You have to remove or just move out of the way the widow wash fluid tank. Not the coolant resevoir.

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Old 07-14-2007, 11:15 PM   #149
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Remove a coolant reservior tank:


Just wasn't sure about this step, from the shot angle it almost looks like the actual tank part of this coolant reservior was removed. But I'm assuming now that it's all still intact???
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Old 07-15-2007, 01:43 AM   #150
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Thats the turbo coolant resevoir and I never remove it to install injectors. If you need to for some reason just swing it out of the way.

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