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Old 08-29-2000, 05:13 PM   #1
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Question MY2000 Mutil-link Suspension Options

Well, I am just thinking of the future, so I spend a while looking around for info on our multi-link setup. Wow, it is *really* different than anything else Subie.

So, now what are the options for "high performance" upgrades. The closest I have come to anything is Tien's new Type WAGON damper kit. There is no info in english about the part, but there is a English Price Page, and there is a similar Japanese application page with words like: BH5 - GT-B,GT-VDC,TSR,Brighton-S,TX which I know is our body style. So, it looks like that could be an option, but what are the details?

We need to start building a database of products and parts that are compatable with our BH6/BE6 Legacys, basically "what is different and not compatable" between ours and the JDM BH5/BE5.

I have been looking at Takakira and all of the areo kits are listed as BH5, how much of those are 100% compatable? Of course I know that the rear bumper is different, but can we swap out the full rear bumber then get a nice grapefruit-shooter sticking out the back? (Let's just say I want the Zero Sports body kit really bad... <sigh> )

Well, enough whining for now... process my thoughts and discuss!

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Old 08-29-2000, 05:19 PM   #2
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Yeah, I am replying to myself... how sad.

I just found Zerosports website: www.zerosports.co.jp (edit fixed silly web addres)

Check THIS! That pic at the top of the page is of a coilover kit for us. Of course it weighs in at a hefty $2250 or so (I did not mention it, but the TEIN is about $1000).

Highly suggest looking at the Zerosports website, there is some kickass stuff for us there.

A


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Old 08-29-2000, 07:09 PM   #3
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You might want to refer our car as BE9/BH9 or BD9/BG9. Although the vin# starts with B*6, the body style is actually B*9.

I found the label on the driver side strut mount in 98 Legacy GT, the body style is labeled BD9.

Regarding Type Wagon kit, it mentioned it is designed specificlly for BH5, but you will be able to fit the kit on BH9. Tein has not confirm if the kit will fit BE5, BHC, BHE.

Note:
2 circle means the kit is designed for that particular body style.
1 circle means the kit will fit on that body style.
"水平対向 6気筒" means it needs to be confirmed
..... means it won't fit.
I am not sure about the triangle.


This is what I know so far as far as parts compatibility.

BD/BG compatible
rear sway bar
spring & shock
Pillow mount
clear side marker
shift linkage
Strut tower bar
Rear section muffler

BD/BG not compatible
spark plug wires (they have male plugs for ignition side!, 7500yen lesson)
front sway bar (made contact w/ exhaust manifold. 15000 yen lesson.)

I ordered the Cusco rear sway bar, Tein spring and front strut tower bar for my BE9, but the shop keeps delay the shipment, so I don't know if those will fit fine.

Also, I think the Japanese muffler might have conflict with the rear bumper. JDM legacy has a cutout on the rear bumper to clear the muffler, but US Legacy doesn't have that. Can someone confirm that?


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Old 08-30-2000, 08:19 AM   #4
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Yikes! you guys are confusing me with all these designations.

Can you give me a breakdown of the designations? How do they relate to the pre '00 body style and the '00 body style for North American Legacies? What's the significance of the E,D,G,H suffixes?

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Old 08-30-2000, 09:05 AM   #5
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BE/BH are the new MY00 body style.
BE is the sedan, BH is the wagon.

BD/BG are the previous 96-99 model.
BD is the sedan and BG is the wagon.
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Old 08-30-2000, 09:08 AM   #6
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Sorry Bob! I guess that is the whole point of this thread, to try to get rid of some of the confusion surounding all this stuff...

Since I have been asked already once:
JDM - Japanese Domestic Market

Body Codes:
(I don't know the first-gen body codes)
BD - 2nd Gen. Legacy/Liberty Sedan/Saloon (MY94-MY97 JDM, MY95-MY99 US )
BG - 2nd Gen. Legacy/Liberty Wagon/Estate (and Outback) (MY94-MY97 JDM, MY95-MY99 US )
BE - 3rd Gen. Legacy/Liberty Sedan/Saloon (MY98- JDM, MY00- US )
BH - 3rd Gen. Legacy/Liberty Wagon/Estate (MY98- JDM, MY00- US )

Body Code Numbers:
This is where I don't have 100% of the info, but I'll put what I know here and someone can correct me:
Japanese Market
BG3/BGA/BG5 - JDM Legacy Wagon w/2.0L (N/A) motor - LX, brighton, RS
BG5 - JDM Legacy Wagon w/2.0L motor - GT,GT-B,TS-,TS
BE5 - JDM Legacy Sedan w/2.0L motor - B4 RS/RSK
BH5 - JDM Legacy Wagon w/2.0L motor - GT-B,GT-VDC,TSR,Brighton-S,TX
BH9 - JDM Legacy w/2.5L motor - 250T-B,250T-V
BH9/BHC/BHE - JDM Legacy w/2.5L motor - 250 Series
North America Market
BD? - Legacy Sedan w/2.2L motor - L
BD? - Legacy Sedan w/2.5L motor - GT
BE? - Legacy Wagon w/2.2L motor - Brighton, L
BE? - Legacy Wagon w/2.5L motor - GT
BE6 - Legacy Sedan w/2.5L motor - L, GT
BH6 - Legacy Wagon w/2.5L motor - Brighton, L, GT
(what is the body code for the Outbacks this generation? Could someone look on their VIN badge? It should be two letters and a number starting with 'B' in the first half of the number)

I would like to put all this together in a "compatability chart"... it would be a good refernece.

Hope this helps...

A

edit: forgot 2nd gen US market, someone fill in my blanks?

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Old 08-30-2000, 09:16 AM   #7
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Jason - guess we are surfing at the same time! Just a clarification though: I am not really concerned about compatablily with the BD/BG parts, I am more concerned about compatability with the BE5/BH5 parts. And to answer your question, yes, the rear bumper on the US BE6/BH6 is clearly different.

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Old 08-30-2000, 09:26 AM   #8
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Man that is complex!
I like 1st, 2nd and 3rd generation misself.
Only 3 things to remember.

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Old 08-30-2000, 09:46 AM   #9
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I hear ya gumball. I just go by the generation, but I guess you have to know the designations to find compatible parts from Japan.

Thanks Andy and Jason. I think I got it now. There is one thing I'm not sure about...from what you guys are saying, the 6 for N.A. market is the same as the 9 for the JDM, right?

What I'm also getting from this is that other than the rear bumper, parts for the BE5/BH5 would most likely fit our 3rd gen Legacies. Is this right?

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Old 08-30-2000, 10:41 AM   #10
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Japanese won't understand what you talking about if you tell them your car is B*6. I learned that when I made contact w/ checkerflag in Japan. B*9 will be the closest bodystyle to our "B*6".
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Old 08-31-2000, 02:01 PM   #11
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As far as body kits go, I like these better than the Zero Sports kits.
http://www.poweraxel.com/sti/catalogue/legacy/cat1.html

You may have to click on the exterior link to get the page up. Man I like the looks of that one. Anybody know if these will fit? Can anybody read japanese? How much money is 106,000 yen? Anybody interested in a group buy?
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Old 08-31-2000, 04:39 PM   #12
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When I was running prices on www.expedia.com (there is a converter there for any currency) it was pretty close to 1000/95, so that kit would be about $1000 (nice and rough ) + shipping + paint + etc.

I'd rather do performace before kits, but those <font color="#AA0000">STi</font> kits are looking very fine!

Edit: I was just looking at the prices of some things that I know the prices for, such as the Shift Kit, which you can get Stateside for about $200. (edit2: I was wrong, this is not quite right: "So figure in a 2x-3x price increase to get it to the states (unless you have some really good contacts)" ). Now if we can just get Scott @ Subaru Parts to carry this stuff!

A

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Old 09-05-2000, 11:36 AM   #13
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I'm not really for body kits myself, but the 00 Legacy doesn't seem to have much cool air getting into the engine compartment. I'd feel much better if there was a scoop or some vents on the hood. They're on all the other models, which makes me a little nervous. Of couse, none of them are functional stock, but the opportunity is there to open them up and vent out some of the hot air from the engine compartment.

I've just run my first autocross. It was sweet. I was pretty competitave with the Imprezas, given that the Legacy is 500 pounds heavier. I'm just worried about the engine compartment heat because the air box feels pretty hot to touch. A friend of mine opened up his hood scoop on his Impreza and it makes a world of difference.
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