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Old 09-28-2001, 04:10 PM   #1
Benjamin Tang
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Default underdrive pulley belts... help!

i have an ej22 with an unorthodox underdrive pulley. i used the belts supplied and they are slipping. i cannot read the numbers on the belts because they are on the car and i need to get this sorted out before the store closes!

someone please tell me what the proper belts are???

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Old 09-28-2001, 10:55 PM   #2
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The supplied belts are one size larger than it should. I just took the belt off and have the auto shop get one size smaller. Now no squeaking.
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Old 09-28-2001, 11:47 PM   #3
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i was not able to get the correct size. the new belts are still slipping. furthermore i'm now experiencing a vibration thru the car chassis when at rest. how is yours like? i'm concerned i've done something wrong...

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Old 09-29-2001, 03:11 AM   #4
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AFAIK, UR does not supply belts with their pulleys. Here is the link to the UR page which will list the correct belts needed for your car:

http://www.unorthodoxracing.com/belts_subaru.html

These are Gates belt numbers which any auto parts store can cross reference to their brand. HTH

I assume you mean that youve already tried tightening the belts. Most belts stretch a little in the first week or so of use and need to be retightened.
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Old 09-29-2001, 12:58 PM   #5
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the adjusters are maxed out. vibrations continue....

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Old 09-29-2001, 07:30 PM   #6
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I would definitely say youve got the wrong belts then. And when I put on my UR pulley if anything the engine ran smoother. Something is definitely amiss.

I used the belts listed in the link above and had no probs, my tensioners are about half tightened. Get the numbers off the link above and off the ones on your car and go to your local Autozone and ask them to cross them for you. That will tell you whats up. Each one of the alternate belts listed on the link are about half an inch shorter than the first listed. The last three numbers tell the length in inches(335=33.5".) Maybe you need the alternate belts for some reason.
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Old 09-29-2001, 10:54 PM   #7
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i finally found the gates belts. k040335 and a k050336. it's the best i could do. the alternator is almost at the top again and i haven't done the second adjustment yet, but it isn't slipping.

i searched the engine compartment for stuff i may have misinstalled or not reattached and torqued down everything i could... some of the vibration is minimized, but because i wasn't going thru a process of elimination i don't know what i did. someone cited that it could be the low idle, which is hovering in the 600-700rpm mark on the tach. i'm told there is no way of adjusting the idle since it's obd1.

but when the car is in motion it is noticably smoother. things get much better in the 3000-4000rpm range, but because i have a 4AT the tranny is always in a hurry to shift when it's in that part of the powerband. a change in my driving habits might help i'm hoping...

now i understand what people warned about the headlights dimming... eerie. the air con seems fine though, but then again it isn't exactly summer anymore...

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Old 09-29-2001, 11:14 PM   #8
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Default LIGHTS DIMMING

I had 2 sets of auxilary light (totaling 600 watts of power), H.I.D. headlights, 2 amps (totaling over 700 watts) & 1 farad cap, 1 premier pioneer headunit, radar detector (not much! ), cell phone charger and hi wattage parking lights (totaling 60 watts) on and blasting at the same time at night when I noticed my lights dimming at PEAK notes/Bass notes with the stock altenator and battery...about 6 months that battery lasted until one day I couldn't start my car and had to get numerous jump starts...so I got a DIE HARD GOLD battery 850+ cranking amps 650+ cold cranking amps...EVERYTHING ran flawless and the only difference now is I still have Philips H.I.D. headlights, but now I have changed my 2 sets of aux light to 1 pair of Raybrig Type 100 H.I.D. driving lights located to the right and left airdam and 1 pair of CATZ SR halogen spot light located in the center airdam!!!


CRAZY KEN...No I am not CRAZY, I just don't want to hit any of those CRAZY deers at night!!!
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Old 09-29-2001, 11:52 PM   #9
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is that the sun rising, or crazy ken coming down the street?

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Old 09-30-2001, 09:53 PM   #10
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now i understand what people warned about the headlights dimming... eerie. the air con seems fine though, but then again it isn't exactly summer anymore...
Ben, reset your ECU if you haven't already. It should help with the shifting.

Funny - my headlights don't dim... but they're 70w to begin with so they're quite bright anyway :-)

Regarding AC, I went through a Maryland summer with the UDP on my Outback wagon, and noticed the ac wasn't QUITE as cool, but still worked decently well. Just took a couple minutes longer to get the whole car cool.

Can you check something? When I installed my UDP, it almost looked like it was *slightly* off balance - when looking down on it, it appeared to wobble (precess?) slightly. Does yours? I can't say my engine vibrates, at least not when in neutral or park. However, when in drive and at a light I definitely do get vibrations that I attribute more to a poorly-replaced transmission than anything else.
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Old 09-30-2001, 10:51 PM   #11
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Default I thought so too

Initially I thought mine had a wobble as well but upon checking it and finding it true I realized it was the white lettering on the pulley messing with my eyes. Recheck your torque on the pulley bolt as well Ben. It is always a good idea to recheck torqued aluminum after a couple of days of driving.
Hope you get this worked out, I found it to be a great improvement in engine revving. Again I have the stick so it may not be as pronounced with an auto.
On a side note, my A/C still works awesome. All summer, cool as a refrigerator in the Florida sun. Actually the A/C in my Legacy is one of the best I have ever had even sittting still in traffic. I was gonna ask other people's experiences on this. I mean the the A/C is almost Cadillac grade(note: excessive.)
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Old 10-01-2001, 12:01 AM   #12
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i've been staring at the pulley all day, standing in a $100 pile of gates belts that i cleaned out a local parts store for. i agree... the white lettering gives the impression of a wobble, but staring straight down at it with the belt covers off shows no lateral movement as far as i could see.

as for being torqued down i had the dealer check it and they have no problems with it, so i'm going to say it's fine.

regardless i'm going back monday...

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