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Old 03-20-2006, 07:27 PM   #1
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I'm trying to increase the steering angle of my 98 Outback. Is there a certian model that would be compatible with most or even some of my existing equipment that would help me increase steering angle? I'm willing to swap hubs, racks and toe rods if necessary - I'd like to cover all the bases for OEM to OEM swapping before cutting and welding on my uprights.

NOTE: CV joint operation is not an issue since I've converted to RWD.

Thanks for any help or guidance!
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Old 03-22-2006, 10:20 AM   #2
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Could someone measure their steering angle from a FWD or GD Impreza for me?
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:29 PM   #3
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Why do you need to increase your steering angle?
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Old 03-22-2006, 01:50 PM   #4
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I want a tighter turning radius and to be able to hold more angle while drifting. A quicker steering ratio would also be nice since the oem outback/levacy ratio feels like you're driving a semi cab.
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:29 AM   #5
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You should be able to relocate the hole for the steering rod ends inward to get more angle and ratio.
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:50 AM   #6
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wont a wrx rack fit a legacy? the wrx has like a 13:1 ratio while the legacy has a 15:1 or something like that. thats about i the info i have for ya, kind of a he said she said thing.

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Old 03-23-2006, 02:12 AM   #7
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We could only wish that the wrx had a 13:1 steering ratio.
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:08 AM   #8
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Someone else I was talking to who was a drift fan said that the FWD steering racks have more steering angle than the AWD ones. He said he read that it was one of the modifications done to the Orange drift STi.

Not sure if that's true or not.
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Old 03-23-2006, 08:28 AM   #9
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humm well my car was orginally FWD and I'm still using the FWD rack and I personally think it feels like poop...I guess I really haven't compared it to any other subie sooo...
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:16 PM   #10
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humm well my car was orginally FWD and I'm still using the FWD rack and I personally think it feels like poop...I guess I really haven't compared it to any other subie sooo...
Could you take a pic of your maximum steering angle for me? I'd like to try a comparison between Outback/Legacy AWD rack and FWD rack.

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Old 03-23-2006, 03:28 PM   #11
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to make quicker steering, look into getting one of these:
http://www.stockcarproducts.com/steer4.htm
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Old 03-23-2006, 04:23 PM   #12
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Good link. I'm not only interested in quickening the ratio, but also increasing the maximum steering angle for the sake of turning radius and drift angle. The steering quiekcner would solve half of that problem, but I'd still be limited to the crappy stock steering angle.
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:39 PM   #13
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Look into USDM/v8+ STi control arms. It should increase your SAI by around 15'. Not to mention the other benefits you'll recieve with the arms. Lighter, stronger, more positive caster, wider front track, longer wheelbase. Although the last one might not actually be that much better for you.
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Old 03-23-2006, 06:59 PM   #14
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Old 03-23-2006, 10:55 PM   #15
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I see what you're saying, but I think my best bets would either be to find uprights that have the tierod hole closer to the pivot point or a rack that has a longer throw. I'm thinking about cutting and welding on some junkyard uprights, but I'd rather install something from the factory than something that I've put together (I have enough of that in my car already).
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Old 03-23-2006, 11:46 PM   #16
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I don't think you're going to find that. From what I've looked into, FWD/AWD cars of the same generation have the same part number for the knuckles meaning the same measurements.

You can find the STi control arms for 150-300 depending on where you look. Hell I got my set for like 250 with whitline ALK's installed. Plus they're a hell of a lot better than stock. Honestly going to STi stuff is probably the best bang for buck suspension upgrades you can do, and since you have a BG you don't have any real modification to do to install these. Just make sure you get the swaybar endlinks and the balljoint boss, and it's as easy and just replacing a control arm.

If you're going to custom make some knuckles, why don't try to improve the design? Maybe revamp the whole suspension setup?
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