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Old 04-20-2001, 09:30 PM   #1
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Post Calling ALL legacy owners out there!!!

I'm struggling here, folks. I have two questions for the whole forum... 1) I want to spend about $1200-$1400 on new rims and tires. Either 16" or 17" and I have no clue about tires. Any suggestions would be great! 2) I have another $1000 to spend on performance/appearance. Performance is more important but I want my car to look good too. I have no mods on my car so far If you had that amount of money, what would you do to your car? Any suggestions would be great. Pictures too whenever applicable! Anyway, any input would be great! Nothing like helping a newbie! Thank you again.

Ty

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Old 04-21-2001, 12:08 AM   #2
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bump. I've been doing plenty of searches, found all kinds of information on different mods and such. All I need now is some imput because I don't know what is a "must-do" mod and what is not. So any help is great. Thanks.

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Old 04-21-2001, 01:49 AM   #3
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Cobb Tuning will be happy to sell you a really nice setup for $ 2,300 USD or so...

http://www.cobbtuning.com/legacy/wheel-packages.html

... or you could always hit the tirerack & see what they got. http://www.tirerack.com

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Old 04-21-2001, 06:37 PM   #4
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Here's what I would do for performance, though I think in total it's beyond your price limit.
1. cheap stuff - underdrive pulley, cone intake, rear sway bar, rear bushings. Maybe 15 HP, max, but better handling.
2. More expensive - cat back exhaust, exhaust headers, dry sump oiler (does anyone even make these for our cars?) Maybe another 20-25 hp.
3. Most expensive - swap in a Legacy Turbo engine and transmission from 92 or 93.

This assumes that you're still planning on better rubber. My advice is get the cheapest rims that you like the looks of, and spend a chunk on the tires.
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Old 04-21-2001, 11:37 PM   #5
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rrubel: Thanks for the input. You have no idea how helpful it is. I barely know anything about tires. So you are calling that if I add all the stuff you mentioned in Cheap Mods, the quality of the rubber will matter more than the rims? If so, that's new to me(which isn't saying much ) Very cool, thanx for the help again!

GTBGuy: I am heavily considering the wheel/tire pack you PMed to me but I was wondering if you had access to any spoke style wheels instead of the mesh style? Anything thing resembling the Konig Tantrums, AVS Model 7, Prodrive GC-07C, etc.(6-7 spoke is cool, just anything you have access to). Either way, thank you for the offer. I still need to do some shopping but your offer is at the top of my list to consider. Thanks.

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ps- Anyone else have any suggestions for me and my car? mods?!?
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Old 04-22-2001, 12:57 AM   #6
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Check out the Tecnomagnesio Indianapolis.. looks likek the Prodrive 7, 16x7 is 180$, it has 48mm offset which is acceptable for Subarus.... it is at a reasonable price.... u can find it on www.tires.com

for performance mod.... drop in K&N filter, take out resonator, exhaust...
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Old 04-22-2001, 01:23 AM   #7
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SubieKidTK - check your PM's
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Old 04-22-2001, 01:58 AM   #8
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It seems to me that if you are going with 16" wheels, you can't beat RS wheels. There are several styles (well, at least 2) and 2 colors. They fit well and are pretty light...

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Old 04-22-2001, 08:15 AM   #9
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Hey SubieKid,

Ive just finished a lot of research on wheels and tires for my Legacy. The best low budget combination that I found thats will fit the best is this.
(Wheels)
Team Dynamics Monza or Motorsports www.Teamdynamicsusa.com
17X7 +50 offset
They are a little heavier than a $380 wheel but hey they are great for the price.

(Tires)
Kuhmo Ecsta Supra 712
205 45 17
They may sound small (205) but they are gaurenteed to fit when you put performance springs and struts that lower your car.

I currently have Team Loco 134 wheels with a +47 offset and Pirelli P7000 215 45 17 tires that have a 8.5" section width. They would be fine stock but since I have H&R Sport Springs and Ver.5 struts the car is lowered about an inch and a half. They only rub in hard turns but I wouldn't fool with a wheel that is below a +50 offset and a tire that has a section width wider than 8.3".

For performance upgrades go with intake exhaust and SAFC. I am researching importing turbos from Japanese and Australian Spec WRXs. The price is definitely right!!! Like around $500. Keep an eye out for this future possibility. My research isn't done yet. I'm still trying to see if it is really an effective and safe performance upgrade.

Hope this helps.

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Old 04-22-2001, 08:32 AM   #10
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I'm running OZ P1s on my Legagy GT wagon, in 215/45/17. Plenty of clearance, even with that big-ass DMS suspension. But the P1s are made specifically for Subaru, so the offset is perfect. No rubbing, even with the car 1.5" down.

Actual tire widths also vary. One guy's 215 is wider or narrower than another guy's 215, which is something else to keep in mind.

Stock RS wheels are nice and light, about 16-17 lbs. GT wheels are heavier, in the 18-lb neighborhood.

Otherwise, exhaust and intake matter, as do underdrive pulleys, according to the results Dale Teague posted after those mods on his project Legacy.

And welcome to the world of madness!

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Old 04-22-2001, 11:35 AM   #11
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Recomendation 1. 17" ADR R2000 50mm offs and around 18lbs per rim. Slap on some 215x45s Kuhoms 712's. Talk to Chris at TRi tuning this will be around $800.
2. H&R springs w/KYB Adj. struts. Again around $800ish.
3. CAI intake I believe that COBB is the only one avail. I do not know if they have one for the Leg yet, worth a call. $250ish.
4. Brullen 2.25" cat back, I think around $400, there was a GB search and you will find the actual $, or some nice knowlegable person will do it for you.
5. Whiteline Adj. rear bar, about $200 ish.
6. 1 genuine trunk monkey, free, this will help with your weight distribution and if you get a flat tire he will help you change it.
This totals about $2400 and would be a total killer ride, great handleing, great sounding, and a very adj. feel to it. Easy to go from a track set up to a Granny smooth ride.
Good luck My philosophy is the really hard core go fast parts can wait until you have all of the neat handleing parts.
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Old 04-30-2001, 12:32 AM   #12
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Just when you thought this topic was gone... TY STRIKES AGAIN WITH ANOTHER ANNOYING NEWBIE POST TO BRING-IT-BACK!!!! Shopping for late model cars is brutal. I don't recommend it at all.

Ty

ps- my monetary situation dropped from about $2.4k to somewhere near $1.5k. I'm pretty much locked down to get some $605 rims(ADR Ikon 17x7 +50). So that leaves tires(performance all-season), short shifter(would like new knob/boot too), CAI, Underdrive Pulley...I know I don't have the money to do it all but that is what I would like to do Anything else I could pull in under $895? Anyone selling used aftermarket products? Or know of people that are? Let me know. Thanks!
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Old 04-30-2001, 05:59 AM   #13
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So you're getting ADR Ikon's. Welcome to the club, they are great wheels... I've had a set for over 1 Yr mounted with BFG G-force KD Tires.

Don't ask how much, the tires are great and perform almost like R compound tires in AutoX's.

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Enjoy!!!

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Old 04-30-2001, 07:21 AM   #14
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i just got an adjustable rear sway bar installed friday (along with a syms rear strut tower bar and rear h/d endlinks) and it's something i should have done long ago. the car turns so much better and is more controllable. can't wait to find an empty parking lot and work on my gran tourismo style powerslides.

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Old 04-30-2001, 10:44 AM   #15
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Legacy STI L,

Everone I have talked to says to stay faaar away from a combination of H&R springs and KYB struts. Reason for that is the springs are to short for for the soft setting. People have reported hitting the bump stops very easily.

Hey SubiKidTK,
Talk to Josh at Total Performace Imports. They are running a special on Team Dynamics Monzas or Motorsports 17X7 +50 in most any color and centercap. They come with tires mounted and balanced and shipped for $1050. The tires for the 17s are Kuhmo Ecsta Supra 215 40 17 for the impreza guys and 205 45 17 for us Legacy buffs. Ask for the 205 45 17 specifically they are gaurenteed to fit your legacy. I'm ordering my Monza anthrocites at the end of the month.
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Old 04-30-2001, 10:48 PM   #16
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MY 99, good point I think that my trunk monkey was messing with my keyboard whilst I was typing. I meant to say STi springs, a little more Ka-CHing but who is to argue with the quality of STi?
and finally how can any of us talk to Josh at Total Performance Imports, I can't seem to find a link to thier web page.
Thanks.
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Old 05-01-2001, 01:36 AM   #17
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Dude.. The first thing you do is go Turbo, like someone said above. Swap your engine for a 92-93 2.2L Turbo and add a $200 intercooler from Outback Motorsports. Add an intake, maybe one from Larry, strut brace, Legacy GT Rims 16's, man.. so much to list..
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Old 05-01-2001, 08:26 AM   #18
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Sorry about not including an email address for Josh at Total Performance Imports. I talked to him about other Scooby friendly products he can get. He seemed to be able to get some killer prices on coil-over kits and other suspension products. Heres the email address. The website is under construction but he is receiving business email through his personal web-mail address currently. Check him out!!

bassking43@yahoo.com

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Old 05-01-2001, 10:24 AM   #19
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I just did a very cheap mod to my car. I put gutter guard behind the front grill and opening on the front bumper. Looks very cool. Only cost $4.00 too :-)
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Old 05-01-2001, 11:03 AM   #20
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Yeah gimpless, I did the exact same thing only in the front, because you can't put it behind the lower grill on an outback. Only one problem.....

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On my last offroad adventure the bumper must have flexed some and it bent the gutter guard all out of shape.

I just took it off for now but may put it back on and just leave it more room to flex.
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Old 05-01-2001, 04:43 PM   #21
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Ty, don't forget the Cusco or KartBoy shift bushings as a low cost upgrade you will surely notice!

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Old 05-03-2001, 01:19 AM   #22
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Wow. I can't believe the kind of response I've received. You guys are great. So here is what I have come up with...

ADR wheels(17x7, +50), Toyo Proxes FZ4 tires(215/45/17 ZR), adj. rear sway(I don't know what kind? Whiteline?! Help on this one...)

That puts me at about $1300 USD, I think. I would still like to do the quickshift with black boot/knob and the intake. If I went the way of the drop-in K&N air filter, would that improve sound and performance? Maybe that in place of buying the whole intake?...And what is the deal with the gutter guard? Is that like mesh or something? If so, that sounds like a cool, easy mod. Anyway, that is where I think I am going. Does that all sound good? Any changes to be made?

Ty

ps- I heard brake pads should be one of the first things to upgrade, is this true? If so what kind do you recommend that are better than stock but not "porsche" level? Is it obvious I'm a newbie?
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Old 05-03-2001, 04:56 AM   #23
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I've had some REALLY bad experiences with my FZ4's on my '97 GT Sedan auto. On the other hand, I've had FAR better performance with some crappy no-name brand tires on my newer '98 Legacy L wagon manual.

IMO, FZ4's are great rain tires, good dry tires, and POOR snow tires. You might as well spend less and buy a better tire in a Kuhmo Ecsta Supra 712.
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Old 05-03-2001, 02:35 PM   #24
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I don't think 17s will fit on your car without rolling the fenders. I'd get some nice 16s, RS wheels, SSR integrals, Raceline, whatever you like. I've heard Kumho 712s are good tires. I'd get a swaybar, pass on the K&N drop-in, get a cone filter, underdrive pully, some new struts (KYBs), brake pads, brake lines, and maybe new springs. my $.02 as a former '93 L owner.

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Old 05-03-2001, 03:48 PM   #25
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JC- Thanks for the input but that still doesn't help me with the tires. I know kuhmo 712s are good but I DON'T know if they will work for me. I need a good tire that can survive if it happens to snow(in Oregon). Will the Kuhmo do that for me? Are you sure that 17s won't fit? You're the first to tell me this out of a lot of responses. Cone intake? Would a WeaponR Dragon be a cone intake?...

I'm still looking for some imput on my post(scroll up like 4 or something). Thanks again everyone.

Ty
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