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Old 03-07-2011, 10:05 AM   #1826
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Im new to the Sti community and am wanting to get into autocross. What do the different classifications mean? Such as stu stx etc....
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:18 AM   #1827
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Your stock class would be B stock. In said class you can do a front sway bar and endlinks, whatever size tire you want that fits a stock sized wheel and dampers (not springs). Said tires can be r compound tires (treadwear below 140).

The ST/STS/STX/STR/STU are 'street touring' classes. They are street tire only (treadwear of 140 or higher) and they allow quite a few suspension and even some power mods (no boost changes though). Your GV would be STU and given it is AWD, you are limited to 245mm tires. STU stands for Street Touring Ultimate.

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Old 03-07-2011, 10:20 AM   #1828
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Thats great news. I wouldn't mind getting in the -1.8 range if thats the case. Any brand better than another?

I cupped the inside of of my tires pretty bad last year. I was running -1.3 camber and 0 toe. This year I might try a little bit of toe in. I'll probly get the first event out of the stock tires, but they will be toast after that (16K miles). I'll FINALLY get some star specs and see what real tires feel like on this car

What made you go from the WRX to the civic? Are you going to be running at Sanford?
The WRX almost blew up and was at a Subaru Dealer for 6 days and they returned it to me and said nothing was wrong with it. I sold it 36 hours later . Yep, I'll be at Sanford. My konis, race rubber, new wheels, camber bolts (Stock legal) and air filter should be on it by 3/20 . Still trying to decide on front bar but the OE bar is 27mm so it's pretty damn big already.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:24 AM   #1829
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Awesome. Thanks for the help!
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:47 AM   #1830
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Does anyone know of some autocross in ohio?
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:30 PM   #1831
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Well I have been lurking here for a while and thought I would finally check in here since I will be at the Dixie tour. The car has no power mods but a lot of suspension work. I won't go into it all here but I have a journal (not very flashy but the info is there ) over on iwsti.

I look forward to meeting you throughout the year.
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Old 03-07-2011, 10:34 PM   #1832
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Probably want to hold off on the rotors too, looking at the reorg proposal.
ohh, and whats up with this? are we talking about reorg for next yr?
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Old 03-08-2011, 07:23 AM   #1833
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ohh, and whats up with this? are we talking about reorg for next yr?
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:36 AM   #1834
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Went out over the weekend in Corpus to try the new sways (Perrin 25mm FSB-hard, 22mm RSB-soft, Perrin links) and the new Perrin turboback. On the same course I've run in the past (60sec avg.), I gained about 2-3sec avg. The car turns in much better and the push was decidedly reduced.

I decided not to mess with a reflash, and registered BSP (against one car that consistently runs TTOD down there). Even up against cars with Hoosiers and coilovers, it was fun and I wasn't THAT bad.

Results aren't in, but it looks like I'd do okay against the local STU group ( but still get spanked in Houston, I'm afraid.)

Even if I'm still not competitive, the car drives so much better, it's a lot more fun. I find myself wishing for some coilovers, camber plates and a good STU OS map....I know, the loose nut on the wheel is finally tightening up. I was hitting 3rd gear four times each run--the winning BSP STI, TTOD again, told me he was hitting fourth. Holy cow. Fast course. I had a friend ride with me, a Spec Miata driver, and even he said. "Wow", that's a carnival ride!")

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Old 03-08-2011, 10:46 AM   #1835
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Anyone giving the RS-3's a shot this year? I'm trying to decide between that and the StarSpecs. I've run *specs before and really liked them, but what I've read about RS-3's so far seems pretty promising. Will be using these for DD as well.
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Old 03-08-2011, 10:54 AM   #1836
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I would not plan on DD'ing RS3's unless the area you live in is warm and has very little rain. Star Specs are far more versatile.
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Old 03-08-2011, 11:29 AM   #1837
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RS3s don't quite have the sidewall stiffness that the SS has and on strut cars (even with lots of camber) it is desirable to have pretty stiff sidewalls.

My RS2s heat cycled and were complete garbage with at least half the tread left with 40 runs on them and 6k miles of DD. I'm not sure if the RS3s are going to do this too, but I'd probably get them shaved if you are going to autox and DD on them or you might just be wasting a lot of tread (and at that point you hadn't even made it to the 'ideal' tread depth).
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Old 03-08-2011, 01:25 PM   #1838
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Went out over the weekend in Corpus to try the new sways (Perrin 25mm FSB-hard, 22mm RSB-soft, Perrin links) and the new Perrin turboback. On the same course I've run in the past (60sec avg.), I gained about 2-3sec avg. The car turns in much better and the push was decidedly reduced.

I decided not to mess with a reflash, and registered BSP (against one car that consistently runs TTOD down there). Even up against cars with Hoosiers and coilovers, it was fun and I wasn't THAT bad.

Results aren't in, but it looks like I'd do okay against the local STU group ( but still get spanked in Houston, I'm afraid.)

Even if I'm still not competitive, the car drives so much better, it's a lot more fun. I find myself wishing for some coilovers, camber plates and a good STU OS map....I know, the loose nut on the wheel is finally tightening up. I was hitting 3rd gear four times each run--the winning BSP STI, TTOD again, told me he was hitting fourth. Holy cow. Fast course. I had a friend ride with me, a Spec Miata driver, and even he said. "Wow", that's a carnival ride!")
You went all the way to Corpus?... we had a race this Sunday at HPA.

I do want to try out the Corpus scene one day. I'm from there originally, go back every once in a while to visit... maybe I can synch up a visit with an autox.
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Old 03-08-2011, 03:11 PM   #1839
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You went all the way to Corpus?... we had a race this Sunday at HPA.
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I'm workking down there now, but still officially live up by The Woodlands. I also have a place on N. Padre Island, on a canal off Whitecap, so you can stay there if you come down. Bring your fishing gear.

I usually hit HPA for the BMW-CCA events, but with all the back and forth, I've been out of town for both the Houston Regionals and the BMW events. I like the HPA track and driving the 70 miles to GGP to run 3 times is becoming problematic. My teenagers have pretty much decided they'll stick to HPA events only.

This is my second time at STBR (Corpus). The group is small and very friendly. Lots of out-of-towners, including four or five from Houston at the last regional.

At least one STI I've run with both times drives down from Houston, running BSP. The other STI there, also in BSP, is pretty much top dog. You get two days for the price of one. Saturday in an open practice day, then Sunday is for keeps. I got 12 runs done in the two days.

We should have a Corpus weekend for the Subies. Next event is April 2nd, the "Cone Clash" charity SoloII for the Wounded Warriors project. I'm hoping to be here for that one, it sounds like a lot of fun.

See www.stbrscca.com for more info.
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Old 03-09-2011, 12:25 AM   #1840
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So I have a slightly new setup from last year after my RCE camber plate bearing developing play and the FSB getting too friendly with nearby things...

1. RCE Black Springs
2. Feal revalved rear inserts, OEM valved fronts (Feal front leaked oil into the strut)
3. RCE RSB set on full soft (25.5mm)
4. WL 07-STI specific 24/26 FSB set on full stiff
5. WL adjustable front endlinks
6. KB rear endlinks
7. WL Com-C front upper tophats

So far, so good. I meant to pick up the 27/29 FSB, but accidentally submitted the wrong part # and didn't pay any attention until I had the bar on the car. When I had the RCE plates installed (swapped for camber/caster gain), I was about at -2* in the front. Now, I can only get -1.2* or so on both sides. Is there some trick to getting the most neg camber possible? I posted this in my IWSTI journal and literally had 4 people tell me something was wrong, but no one would elaborate on any possible solutions. And yes, the tophats are oriented for max neg camber/caster and the OEM camber bolt is oriented for max neg camber. I literally had the alignment tech rotate the bolt so we could check the camber #s. Link to my journal.
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Old 03-09-2011, 07:25 AM   #1841
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I'm workking down there now, but still officially live up by The Woodlands. I also have a place on N. Padre Island, on a canal off Whitecap, so you can stay there if you come down. Bring your fishing gear.

I usually hit HPA for the BMW-CCA events, but with all the back and forth, I've been out of town for both the Houston Regionals and the BMW events. I like the HPA track and driving the 70 miles to GGP to run 3 times is becoming problematic. My teenagers have pretty much decided they'll stick to HPA events only.

This is my second time at STBR (Corpus). The group is small and very friendly. Lots of out-of-towners, including four or five from Houston at the last regional.

At least one STI I've run with both times drives down from Houston, running BSP. The other STI there, also in BSP, is pretty much top dog. You get two days for the price of one. Saturday in an open practice day, then Sunday is for keeps. I got 12 runs done in the two days.

We should have a Corpus weekend for the Subies. Next event is April 2nd, the "Cone Clash" charity SoloII for the Wounded Warriors project. I'm hoping to be here for that one, it sounds like a lot of fun.

See www.stbrscca.com for more info.
Sounds like a pretty sweet deal... two days of fun... a practice day and then the race, nice! I'm heading down there at the end of April for my brother's birthday, not sure I'm up for making the trip twice in 3 weeks. But, I'll keep it on the radar.

Hmm.. a BSP STi from Houston?... does he normally race at the SCCA events?... I'm trying to think of who it is.

Yeah, GGP is a long haul for sure. I find my love for it waning from time to time, but it is a pretty big lot and has some long courses. I'm torn I guess... I hate all the gravel, but I like the 60-70sec courses.
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Old 03-09-2011, 11:07 AM   #1842
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The guy from Houston (Kevin-works at HP) rarely does Houston events. He likes to drive down and a make a weekend of it in CC with his friends. He's an excellent driver in a car that is not that set up. He has A6's, sways and springs--- no plates or coilovers. He's just a good driver. If he went back to STU and set the car up a little better, he'd be competitive.

Like me, he prbably sees the local STU class as too small and not competitive at all (my slowest times in BSP are fast for the STU class and I'm on a stock suspension with sways and street tires/Star Specs). What fun is that? Then again, with a few more good STU cars here, I'd be willing to flash back to stock for race days.

The other BSP STi is very well set up and driven by a nice maniac. "Joe Bob", has lots of previous racing experience, both in Motocross and dragsters. He's great guy, too.

A few EVO"s come down most weekends, so it can be a hoot. I think they usually field about 30 cars, all classes. MUCH smaller than in Houston.

This month's course (Red) was a long one, very fast. STI's and big cars with good HP and torque curves had an advantage. Over the next 3 months, they'll run the White Course, their shortest (45sec avg). It favors the smaller, nimble cars, like Minis and Miatas. Of course, because we run on NAS taxiways, there are always the annyoing 1st gear turns. I hate 1st gear turns. Still fun over the rest of it and I'm getting the hang of slamming in first--- and the heck with heel-toe and being smooth. If the trans can handle it, I can.

Let me know when you might want to come down.

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Old 03-09-2011, 11:48 AM   #1843
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1st gear in an STI? How slow do you have to be ging to make that work? At least just leave it in 2nd and slip the clutch a bit to keep the revs up
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Old 03-09-2011, 02:12 PM   #1844
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1st gear in an STI? How slow do you have to be ging to make that work? At least just leave it in 2nd and slip the clutch a bit to keep the revs up
I tried that on the first event. All I earned with it was a stinky clutch. On the last event, I tried it once on one of the more open turns, but it was faster going to first, however briefly I was there. The car has a great hole shot. As soon as the car rotated on the pin, I'd slam through the gears, hitting 3rd before the next gate (too long on the limiter if I left it in second. Shifting to 3rd gained me about .2sec).

I also tried a little e-brake on the pin turns the first time. Don't do that......
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I hate pin-cones... really just hoses up the flow of a course, imho.

At any rate, I'll look into going down there for an event whenever one of the faster courses is on tap then.

I'm kind of in $-saving mode b/c I'm spending money on a different car project... hence the reason I'm still on tires I bought in Fall '09... trying to make those last a -liiiitle- longer.
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Old 03-12-2011, 06:21 PM   #1846
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Stay tuned from the latest Hamfist Racing custom STU legal motor mount, engineered by our favorite (evo) traitor, EvilSTi

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Nice! If all goes well, your car will have a few custom parts on it
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:28 PM   #1848
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Whats the deal wit yours? Blown tranny?
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Old 03-12-2011, 07:31 PM   #1850
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