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Old 03-27-2006, 11:48 PM   #1
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Default 1998 Legacy GT OEM Suspension Options

Does anyone know or know where I can find out what other OEM Subaru suspension setups bolt right into the Legacy GT sedan from 97-99? I thought that the 98-01 RS fit right in but I browsed through Teague's Auto and found the rears to be different? I'm trying to stay cheap but will get new tophats if needed.

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Old 03-28-2006, 01:39 AM   #2
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SEARCH.

This topic has been covered a MILLION times. Whiteline, Eibach, H&R, KYB...all of these are companies to look into...

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Old 03-28-2006, 07:24 AM   #3
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The only thing different about the rears is the tophats. (and the springs are different because of the weight difference)
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Old 03-28-2006, 07:24 AM   #4
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SEARCH.

This topic has been covered a MILLION times. Whiteline, Eibach, H&R, KYB...all of these are companies to look into...

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I searched all yesterday and found nothing. On Nasioc, RS25.com, I-club, legacycentral.org, legacygt.com...and I said OEM suspension.
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Old 03-28-2006, 08:51 AM   #5
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i know you said you are looking for oem but just thought i would mention that the H&R's have a pretty nice even look to them...not too low or anything. Also it helps get rid of some of that extra lift in the front.

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Old 03-28-2006, 10:53 AM   #6
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i know you said you are looking for oem but just thought i would mention that the H&R's have a pretty nice even look to them...not too low or anything. Also it helps get rid of some of that extra lift in the front.
I'm thinking about keeping the H&R springs that are on the car, but I don't know how long they've been on at the moment. I'm hoping around 10k. The stock struts are toast as well as the mounts. I may just get new KYB GR-2 and put the H&R springs on them with new mounts. I'm checking into pricing from someone that works at a dealer for the whole SPT setup for the Impreza plus Leg mounts. Which would you think is better?
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Trust me on this one.. stay away from the impreza suspension and just go with legacy stuff from the get go.. you will save $100 or so with used WRX stuff but its really worth it to get legacy stuff from the start. If you wanna stay stock-ish.. just get a set of GR-2s off ebay and use your stock GT springs.. the gR-2's are about 25% stiffer than the stock oem struts and you GT springs are about 25% stiffer than stock legacy springs.. so with that combo (gr-2 + GT springs) same ride height and stiffer ride.
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i have h&r sports on the kyb gr2's and i think they work well. It is a good ride not too stiff or anything but a good stiffness level, especially for daily driver.
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Awesome, that was exactly the info I was looking for. Thanks Spdracr00. I'll get the GR-2s and get the GT springs from the dealer along with mounts. The car already has an aftermarket rear sway so it should feel firm and I won't have to worry about scraping stuff on these crappy New England roads.
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the only thing is that it will sit up like stock and personally i think thats a little high but the gr2's are good
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I searched all yesterday and found nothing. On Nasioc, RS25.com, I-club, legacycentral.org, legacygt.com...and I said OEM suspension.
Well, then I don't quite understand what you are looking for. OEM is OEM. Period. What more is there to look for. Go to the dealer and buy the OEM sturts/springs if you want OEM.

Oh, but now it sounds like you want aftermarket struts, that I know you had to have read about if you really did search.

The setup you now talk about getting is NOT completely OEM and HAS been covered in the past, and the company you are going to buy just happened to be on the list in my post...strange how that worked out...


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Old 03-28-2006, 12:47 PM   #12
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Well, then I don't quite understand what you are looking for. OEM is OEM. Period. What more is there to look for. Go to the dealer and buy the OEM sturts/springs if you want OEM.

Oh, but now it sounds like you want aftermarket struts, that I know you had to have read about if you really did search.

The setup you now talk about getting is NOT completely OEM and HAS been covered in the past, and the company you are going to buy just happened to be on the list in my post...strange how that worked out...


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Everyone else seemed to get what I was looking for. OEM = Original Equipment from Manufacturer. Aka Subaru.

Don't be so waa waa pissy, dude. Thanks to everyone else that had a helpful suggestion.

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Old 03-28-2006, 12:54 PM   #13
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OEM = Original Equipment from Manufacturer. Aka Subaru.

Don't be so waa waa pissy, dude. Thanks to everyone else that had a helpful suggestion.
Dude, the "dealer" I was in reference to that you should buy OEM from was a Subaru dealer, I though that would be clear.

I just don't see how your original request for OEM and then response to me reminding me that you want OEM is now satisfied by your purchase of aftermarket equipment.

Glad you are satisfied now, but your posts don't really make sense with each other..

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Old 03-28-2006, 01:31 PM   #14
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Dude, the "dealer" I was in reference to that you should buy OEM from was a Subaru dealer, I though that would be clear.

I just don't see how your original request for OEM and then response to me reminding me that you want OEM is now satisfied by your purchase of aftermarket equipment.

Glad you are satisfied now, but your posts don't really make sense with each other..

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waa waa

OK recap:

Yeah I understand what a dealer is, but by OEM I meant the cross-reference of parts. You know, how the struts are all the same, springs are slightly different, front tophats are the same but rears are different when matched with Impreza suspension. I was looking to see if I could drop in RS suspension directly but as Wiscon_Mark noted that the rear tophats are different. So basically I could drop in RS suspension by just changing the rear tophats. Or WRX suspension by changing all tophats. Everything there is OEM.

But then spdracr00 noted that KYB GR2s are better than stock and that the LGT springs would do well with them, and that's what persuaded me to lean that way. Since I will need to buy new tophats anyway I might as well piece new stuff together instead of trying to loosen the tophat nut on suspension that's off the car.

Where's Dr. Phil when you need him...

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The tophat nut is not that bad. Worst case, go to repair shop close to home, have them loosen it with the air gun and then drive home to complete the job. Go back after you are done for tighening.
I bought a strap wrench in the bargain bin for $8 the other day. Should work as well.
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I need to step in again... you got the top hat issue messed up..

The rear upper-spring perch(tophat) is the same. I'm running a full WRX strut/spring setup on my 99legacy wagon. all i had to do to make this work was get some Impreza upper-spring perches(tophats) for the front. impreza springs taper at the top in the front, but do not taper in the rear. now keep in mind if you're gonna use impreza parts on your legacy (which i say NO) you need to find 02/03 wrx struts/springs/perches. which goes the same for RS stuff, but why use RS stuff when WRX is better?
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So what you're saying (technically, not ethically) is that I could go out to Ebay and grab one of the used 02/03 assembled sets and drop it in for $150 instead of dropping $650 on a whole new setup?
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Ok I answered my own question. Found a great post at Legacygt.com for what I want to do. http://www.legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=6274

I think I'll just pick up the 02-03 WRX complete setup and call it a day. GC stuff doesn't hold the weight of the Legacy very well apparently so goot call Spdracr..



I feel like I just called Geico.
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Search under my username:

MY99 2.5GT

Search the following keywords:

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Fill your brain I've had a few different suspension setups on my 99 Leg
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myfirst00: I sent you a PM, I think... My computer is acting strange, so you may not have gotten it.
I would like to buy the H&R springs you have if you would like to sell them. I'm only 20min away from you, so I can easily come get them.
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MY99, thanks for the leads. Great info, especially about mounts.
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ive read that you CAN use WRX suspension, but its not wise to do so, mainly because of the 300-400 lbs of "car weight" difference. i know i wont do it.


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ive read that you CAN use WRX suspension, but its not wise to do so, mainly because of the 300-400 lbs of "car weight" difference. i know i wont do it.


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WRXs are heavier than BDs...at around 3200 lbs.
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According to Edmunds, the GD weighs 3085lbs and the BD weighs 3090lbs. Albeit Edmunds is not the end-all-be-all of car specs but I would guess that it's pretty close.

According to the spring rates of the WRX matched against the 90-94 Legacy spring rates (link below), the WRX has stiffer fronts with slightly softer rears. Does anyone know the spring rates of the 97-99 GT springs to see how they match up against the WRX?

http://bbs.legacycentral.org/viewtop...ht=spring+rate

Either way my set of WRX suspension will be here next week and I'll post how it feels. Granted I have nothing to compare it to it will just be a general description.

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