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Old 05-23-2006, 07:58 PM   #1
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I am always amazed at the small turnout for the Utah RallyCrosses. Here is your chance to let your Subie do what it was ment to do:

The RallyCross on June 3 will be at a new venue which really isn’t new at all—Jordan River OHV Center. It will be new to most of you, but a few of us may still have fond memories of this site. This is the site that started RallyCross off here in Utah in 1998. Although nostalgic for the old-timers, it should be fun for everyone. This site consists of dirt, somewhere down under all the grass and weeds, which we should eventually be driving on by the end of the day. Needless to say, it will be a substantially different surface to drive on than Hobble Creek. And since it’s free of gravel and is close to SLC, all potential RallyCrossers avoiding Hobble Creek should give Jordan River and RallyCross a try!

To get to Jordan River OHV Center, take the 2200 North exit on I-215 and exit to the east frontage road. Take the first left, Rose Park Lane, and follow it north to the end of the road. You can’t miss it. For those who would like a map, please go to http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp...te=UT&zipcode=. Please note that the speed limit on Rose Park Lane is 30 MPH. It’s a narrow road with drop offs on either side, so observing the traffic laws is not only smart, it makes you look smart too.

This event will have the regular start times. Registration will be open from 8 am to 9:30 am, drivers’ meeting will be at 9:45 am, with first car out at 10 am. The event usually goes until mid- to late-afternoon, with each competitor being given six runs.

All competitors must possess and show a current valid drivers license, and all cars (fixed-roof production based, including convertibles with a factory hardtop attached and targa- or t-top-types with factory panel(s) in place) must be able to pass technical inspection. Helmets are required and must meet the SA or M 95 rating or better. For those without a proper helmet, a few loaners are available.

Entry fees are $20 for SCCA members and $30 for nonmembers.

If there are any questions, please contact me.

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Old 05-24-2006, 02:32 AM   #2
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i would love to come out...to bad my car is settup to run on tarmac. whats the usual turnout number? i know when i run solo2 there are always 50+ cars
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Old 05-24-2006, 09:06 AM   #3
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i would love to come out...to bad my car is settup to run on tarmac. whats the usual turnout number? i know when i run solo2 there are always 50+ cars

Less then 10. In October some of the Colorado RallyCross drivers go to Utah for the final event and sometimes out number the locals. I don't get why you guys aren't into it. Last time I was there I got 16 runs!

We have 4 or 5 guys in Colorado that run STX and RallyCross in the same car. A couple of the guys change tires but some don't even do that. One of them won RallyModified 4 just last weekend. Colorado normally gets between 30-45 cars in the summer time and has had as many as 68 in a winter ice RallyCross. At least half the cars are Subarus. Surprisingly 1.8 and 2.2 Imprezas are just as fast on dirt as WRX's and STi's.

Here are some guys racing in Colorado this year. 59 won the last RallyCross and races STX other weekends.





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Old 05-24-2006, 12:20 PM   #4
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Is there any fee for spectators?
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Nope. Just sign a waiver.
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Old 05-24-2006, 12:44 PM   #6
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so tempting...but i just do that to my car. when i bought it i said to myself, it will never be rallied in dirt...and im stickng with it. if someone wants to let me borrow there L beater ill be all over it, like stink on poop.
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so tempting...but i just do that to my car. when i bought it i said to myself, it will never be rallied in dirt...and im stickng with it. if someone wants to let me borrow there L beater ill be all over it, like stink on poop.
That's too bad. Its like having skis and not going skiing. I have done 55 RallyCrosses in the past 5 years. My first one was two months after I bought my car new. Still a daily driver and never had any serious problems with it. I've won 6 championships in it. Spend an hour cleaning it up after each race and change the oil every 2,000 miles. This was the car running a couple of weeks ago with 81,000 miles on it:

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Probably a dumb question but you wouldn't need a rollcage would you? Its not required, but would it be a dumb idea to not have one?(Dunno anything about rallyx like this) Might be interested in goin
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Old 05-24-2006, 05:33 PM   #9
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Probably a dumb question but you wouldn't need a rollcage would you? Its not required, but would it be a dumb idea to not have one?(Dunno anything about rallyx like this) Might be interested in goin
90% of the people who do RallyCross use their daily drivers and don't have roll cages. The 10% who do are in the top classes and usually trailer in the car. RallyCross is basically Solo II on dirt. Biggest difference with Solo is that in RallyCross every run counts and times are added together for the final score. Courses are designed to have a top speed of 45 mph with corners averaging 25 mph.
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ARTICLE 6 VEHICLE CATEGORIES AND PREPARATION
6.1 ELIGIBLE VEHICLES
A RallyCross event is open to any fixed-roof production based vehicle (including convertibles with a factory hardtop attached, targa-types with factory panel in place, t-tops with factory panels in place) that can pass safety inspection. If the Event Chairman after consultation with the Event Safety Steward determines at his discretion that a vehicle cannot safely negotiate the course, it may be excluded.

6.2 VEHICLE CLASSIFICATION
A. Regions and Divisions may specify local classes providing they are clearly described and that event organizers realize that a dual-scoring system must be used to score events both for local points and for divisional and national championships (when applicable).
B. All items that are not specifically allowed or referred to as unrestricted must be of manufacturer’s specification.

C. Rally Stock Category
Stock Rear Wheel Drive (SR)
Stock Front Wheel Drive (SF)
Stock All Wheel Drive (SA)
Preparation allowances:
1. All Cars must be equipped as from the manufacturer, with only
factory-installed and port-installed option packages. Options that were only part of a package must be present with the entire package. Complete option packages may be installed after purchase of the vehicle.
2. Tires must be DOT approved. Snow tires are allowed. No studded tires are permitted unless ice or snow are present. Studded tires may not be homemade using bolts or screws. Only street-legal studs are allowed. Tires may not interfere with any parts of the car (fenders, fender liners, suspension, etc). “Aggressive” tires are prohibited. A tire will be considered an “aggressive tire” if it meets any of the following criteria:
a. It does not carry a DOT approval.
b. It is marked “For competition only”, “Not for street use” or similar verbiage.
c. It is modified or altered from its original tread pattern in any way.
d. The tread gap of the tire is equal to or greater than 0.34” as measured in the space between any tread blocks. This does not apply to any circumferential grooving that may be part of the original pattern of the tire.
3. Air filter material is free, but it must fit in the stock location.
4. The additions of protective equipment are allowed with the following exceptions:
a. The modifications must only provide protection to the car and/or occupants and provide no performance advantage.
b. Mud flaps may only be made of urethane and other flexible plastic derivatives (i.e. no carbon-Kevlar)
c. Skidplates protecting suspension and drive train components may only be made out of metal or plastic derivatives.
d. Driver restraints and roll cage may be added.
e. Additional or replacement hood and trunk latches are permitted. All latch systems must be secure.
5. Dress-up and convenience items which do not give a performance advantage, reduce the weight of the car, or weigh less than the replaced standard part they are replacing are allowed (i.e. shift knobs, pedal covers).
6. ABS and/or traction control systems may be electronically/electrically disabled but not removed.
7. Vehicle lights may be replaced with alternate bulbs and housing. Auxiliary lights may be added. The total number of lights shall not be less than standard.
8. Brake pad material is free.
9. Fuel may be any type of unleaded or diesel fuel commonly available at the pump. Alternative fuels must be pre-approved by the event RallyCross Safety Steward prior to the event. No alcohol fuels or nitrous oxide are allowed.
10. Clutch material is free.
11. Exhaust systems from the catalytic converter back are free with the following exceptions:
a. The exhaust must exit the body work.
b. The exhaust must exit to the rear of the driver.
c. The exhaust must comply with local noise restrictions

D. Rally Prepared Category
Prepared Rear Wheel Drive (PR)
Prepared Front Wheel Drive (PF)
Prepared All Wheel Drive (PA)
Preparation allowances:
1. All Rally Stock category modifications are allowed.
2. Sway bars and their mounting are free.
3. Brakes are free except no carbon brakes allowed.
4. Exhaust systems from the cylinder head exhaust ports back are free with the following exceptions:
a. The exhaust must exit the body work.
b. The exhaust must exit to the rear of the driver.
c. The exhaust must comply with local noise restrictions.
d. Downstream there must be at least one functioning catalytic converter in the exhaust system on cars originally equipped with a catalytic converter.
5. The intake system upstream from the throttle body is free. Under no circumstances may forced induction components be changed or added (turbochargers, superchargers, intercoolers).
6. Short shift kits are allowed.
7. Front and/or rear strut tower bars are permitted.
8. Shocks are free but the shock/strut must mount to the original mounting position using unmodified mounting points. Springs may also be replaced, but they must be of the same type and use original mounting points. Threaded collars and camber plates are allowed.
9. Electronic engine controls may be modified or piggybacked, but not replaced.
10. Any tire is allowed except homebuilt studded tires.
11. Seats are free but must be solidly mounted.
12. Any non-metallic bushing is allowed.
13. Wheels are unrestricted.

E. Rally Modified Categories
Modified Two Wheel Drive (M2)
Modified All Wheel Drive (M4)
Preparation allowances:
1. All Rally Prepared category modifications are allowed.
2. Electronic engine controls are free.
3. Any replacement hood may be used.
4. The clutch is free.
5. Any car that is currently legal for stage rally competition in other sanctioning bodies may run in its appropriate Rally Modified class regardless of whether it meets the Rally Modified rules.
6. Glass, with the exception of the front windshield, may be replaced with lexan or equivalent.
7. Engines are free but must be internal combustion.
8. Drive train is free.
9. The suspension is free. This allows changes to all components and geometry.
10. Body work may be added or substituted with any material.
11. The interior components may be completely removed and/or replaced.
12. Additional chassis braces and seam-welding are permitted.
13. All log booked race cars that meet entry requirements are legal for the proper Modified class.
14. The fuel system is free provided gasoline or diesel fuel is used.

6.3 VEHICLE/DRIVER SAFETY
All vehicles must pass safety inspection on the following points prior to competing. This applies at each event entered. Entry fees, if already paid, will be refunded if a car fails to pass the safety inspection. A safety inspection is not concerned with class compliance.
A. All loose items, inside and outside the car (including the trunk and storage areas), must be removed.
B. Snap-on hubcaps, detachable fender skirts and trim rings must be removed.
C. Convertible, targa, or t-top vehicles must have their factory hard top or panels securely in place during course runs.
D. Sunroofs must be fully closed unless vehicle is equipped with a net at the opening and/or the driver is wearing arm restraints.
E. The driver’s window may not be down more than 1” during course runs
unless the vehicle is equipped with a window net and/or the driver is using arm restraints. The same restriction applies to the passenger window if there is a passenger.
F. Wheels must be safely affixed. They shall not be reversed so that the lughole taper does not mate with the chamfer of the lugs. All studs and lug nuts must be present, installed correctly and functional.
G. Tires must be in good condition, with no cord or belts showing or cracks in the tread or sidewall.
H. Seat lap belts are required in all cars. Installation of shoulder and lap belts is strongly recommended. Seat/shoulder belts must be properly installed with attaching hardware secure and tight. Additional belts must be installed per the manufacturer’s recommendations.
I. Throttle return action shall be safe and positive.
J. No excessive fuel, oil, water or brake fluid leaks should be observed when the engine is running.
K. Steering wheel "spinner" knobs are not permitted.
L. Brakes must have an adequate pedal, sufficient fluid in the master cylinder and no apparent hydraulic leaks and shall be operational at all four wheels. The vehicle must have a working parking/emergency brake
system.
M. Wheel bearings, shocks, steering, and suspension shall be in good
operating condition.
N. All batteries (on board power supplies) shall be attached to ensure that the battery and/or power supply will remain in place. If a lead-acid (wet cell) type battery is located in the drivers/co-drivers compartment it must be equipped with leak-proof caps and enclosed in a non-conductive, marine type box. Dry cell batteries, commonly known as Recombinant Gas (RG) or Glass Mat Technology (GMT) batteries, are not required to be in a marine-type box. The hot terminal must be insulated on all vehicles. All batteries shall be securely attached to the primary structure of the vehicle.
O. Roll cages are strongly recommended in all cars. If installed it is strongly recommended that roll cages be constructed according to the rules for stage rally competition used in other sanctioning bodies.
P. Snell 1995 (SA95, M95, or K98) or newer labeled helmets are approved for use. This is a minimum standards for use in RallyCross, other approved helmets are:
1. British Standards: BS 6658-85 type A/FR, including all
amendments.
2. SFI Foundation, Inc; SFI Spec 31.1
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Old 05-24-2006, 06:46 PM   #11
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I've yet to go to a rallycross, mostly because they're so incredibly far away, but from what I've seen in pictures, the events are all held on dirt surfaces. It seems to me that with a lower amount of grip, the chances of a vehicle overturning are considerably less than on a high-grip surface.

Looks like a LOT of fun. Maybe now that you're doing them closer to me, maybe I'll come and spectate, at the very least.
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I would really like to come, do I have to register ahead of time?

also do you think it is a good idea to run on my street tires, which are just a pair of all season 225/50 semi performance tires?
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I would really like to come, do I have to register ahead of time?

also do you think it is a good idea to run on my street tires, which are just a pair of all season 225/50 semi performance tires?
It's not ideal but many drive on those tires. What you need to do is increase tire pressure close to the tires maximum 40-50 psi. Any lower on street tires and you risk popping the bead off the rim. You can always adjust down when you get there if the surface is very soft.

Yes, you can register on site. I suggest getting there close to 8:00 am so you can walk the course and ask questions.

If you are worried about you paint job put mud flaps on and/or use the blue painters 3M tape on the lower half of the car. Don't think it will be necessary at this course but would be more useful at the Hobble Creek course which has more gravel on it.
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Karl, any tips on getting the rally tires mounted? I got them on, but the outside bead just won't set. One side bubbles out whilst the other side hides underneath. Is there a trick or am I just going to have to find new tires?
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sweet Im definitely coming,

one more important question, can someone ride along with us?
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Karl, any tips on getting the rally tires mounted? I got them on, but the outside bead just won't set. One side bubbles out whilst the other side hides underneath. Is there a trick or am I just going to have to find new tires?

Actually this is Rupert here, Colorado's RallyCross series manager. I was quoting Karl Sealander, Utah's series manager. He drives a Mazda 323 GTX but we will forgive him for that. I saw Karl this weekend at Miller Motorsports Park. He is going to drag the course a day or two ahead of time.

Are you sure your tires are the right size? Either way putting rally tires on is a mother. The side walls are so stiff. I would bring it to a tire shop and have them do it. They usually come out sweating if they haven't done one before.

As far as ride alongs go, they are no problem. If they are 18 and older they just need to sign the waiver and where a helmet. Karl says they have two spare helmets. If you don't want a stinky one you can get a cheap Motorcycle helmet for about $50 so long as it is rated MA95 or newer. Brand new ones should be MA05. They will work for Solo as well. An SA helmet would be good if you plan to go on to stage rally or road racing but is not neccesary for RallyCross.

If you or your passenger are under 18 you need to get a parents signature on a minor release form. It used to be on the SCCA web site but I can't seem to find it.

Fire away if you have any more questions.

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Hope you guys have fun. Let us know how it goes.
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Well, I'm going to be there, doubt I'll drive in it with my fully stock car and lack of skills, but I still want to check it out for a while.
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lack of skills+stock car= how everybody starts.

PS what's the deal with rally tire pressure? High? Low?
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