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Old 04-03-2006, 10:34 PM   #1
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:21 AM   #2
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I'm interested in the stg2 MAF boost cooler system , I'm currently running a turbo xs stg 4 setup tuned by turbo xs My boost is 20.5 on my dyno map and 19.5 on my daily driver map, When the car was tuned I had a octane boost that contained meth and some variation of alcohol If I run straight 93 i'll get knock because my timing is advanced some. im wondering if I just got a basic kit to help with detonation , then get it tuned more aggresively later on.
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:14 AM   #3
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You could run the kit and spray a very small amount and it will probably help out your situation but you really need to be tuned for alcohol injection. When I through my kit on and started tuning my afrs they went from 11.3 to 10s and 9s at places.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:12 PM   #4
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is it safe to use the intercooler spray reservoir in the trunk of the sti
as the methanol storage for striaght meth? i see alot of people
doing it but dont know how safe it is. thanks
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:18 PM   #5
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Yea it is perfectly safe to use that tank for a resevoir. I run my stock windshield washer tank in my trunk of my evo for mine. There is always a slight danger to having methanol in your car no matter where it is but keeping it in your trunk is probably the safest place for it in your car. A great alternative is to you use 50/50 mix as it is much less corrosive and dangerous and the power gains are great from it.
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:06 PM   #6
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Would there be any benefit to running 90% water 10 % alcohol for my situation, I'm trying to avoid paying another fee for tuning, but I do realize if you want to play you gotta pay.

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You could run the kit and spray a very small amount and it will probably help out your situation but you really need to be tuned for alcohol injection. When I through my kit on and started tuning my afrs they went from 11.3 to 10s and 9s at places.
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Old 04-04-2006, 05:12 PM   #7
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Even with water injection you would still need to be tuned..
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:40 PM   #8
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In the stg2 MAF boost cooler system, will it work ok if it is a blow through MAF system?

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Old 04-04-2006, 08:50 PM   #9
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Yes, it just reads maf voltage and sprays according to that in a linear pattern. Like say you have it start at 2v and have it max at 4.5v.
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I just came across this GB - seems like an awesome deal. http://newcelica.org/forums/showthread.php?t=206730
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:07 PM   #11
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Don't worry bout that Just pm me if your interested in a kit...
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Old 04-06-2006, 10:11 AM   #12
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Does that go for me too ?

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Old 04-06-2006, 10:25 AM   #13
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Old 04-06-2006, 11:06 AM   #14
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Yea, I pmed you back, I was told one thing by snow and I guess someone else is selling cheaper so guess what (my prices will be cheaper...)
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:19 PM   #15
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Is it a fact that you cannot run 100% methanol with the pump you guys provide?
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:20 PM   #16
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I'm interested in the stg2 MAF boost cooler system , I'm currently running a turbo xs stg 4 setup tuned by turbo xs My boost is 20.5 on my dyno map and 19.5 on my daily driver map, When the car was tuned I had a octane boost that contained meth and some variation of alcohol If I run straight 93 i'll get knock because my timing is advanced some. im wondering if I just got a basic kit to help with detonation , then get it tuned more aggresively later on.
Any help??
I am waiting on the tune of my SMC system. I am running a very small amount of injection (just water). It comes on at 15 PSI and theoretically reaches almost 2 gph flow at my max boost of 17 PSI (I am definitely less than 3 gph because the spray light does not come on). Doing this I can run the Cobb 93 octane map without det and the IAM has been happy.

Obviously tuning is far preferable, but if you plan to get injection and a tune in the long run, it certainly can't hurt to try out a small injection and see if it helps. The success may depend in part upon the ECU's ability to adjust. I think a UTEC setup (which I'm guessing you have) may be less likely to learn than an AP (which I have). Just make sure you're not injecting much.

Not to rain on the Snow parade, but a CoolingMist system might even be better because you can programmatically adjust the flow rate of the injection nonlinearly, which, especially if you're not getting tuned would be an advantage.
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Old 04-06-2006, 01:24 PM   #17
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For how long?
And any limit?
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:03 AM   #18
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of the MAF Variable Controller vs. Variable Controller?
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It depends on who you talk to about which controller is better, I personally like the map controller as its very easy to install and set and for me works great on the evo. The maf also works great and runs off maf voltage. I guess it depends how much whp you are pushing because if you start flowing more than your maf can handle then you alky will not be spraying the proper amount needed at times. On my evo I am pushing just under 400whp which is the limit of the stock maf so I went with the map kit just to be on safe side. An advantage of maf is that it can give you a more accurate spray for those of us that use faster spooling turbos.
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For how long?
And any limit?
I should have an answer today for that.
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Old 04-07-2006, 09:46 AM   #21
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It depends on who you talk to about which controller is better, I personally like the map controller as its very easy to install and set and for me works great on the evo. The maf also works great and runs off maf voltage. I guess it depends how much whp you are pushing because if you start flowing more than your maf can handle then you alky will not be spraying the proper amount needed at times. On my evo I am pushing just under 400whp which is the limit of the stock maf so I went with the map kit just to be on safe side. An advantage of maf is that it can give you a more accurate spray for those of us that use faster spooling turbos.
So the ideal kit would run MAF and MAP? How soon is that gonna be out for us Suby guys?
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Old 04-07-2006, 10:30 AM   #22
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I am currently working with Snow to develop a suby specific kit which will have option for this as well but the ETA is unclear at this point.
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Old 04-08-2006, 07:50 PM   #24
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Is it a fact that you cannot run 100% methanol with the pump you guys provide?
The pumps are perfectly safe for straight meth, I run it on the track, I just use mix for daily driving because its cheaper
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this is very tempting
Once you get the addition its very hard to stop I just picked up another 39 gallons today
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