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Old 04-04-2006, 12:16 AM   #1
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Ok i know alot of people are going to flame me for this, but I want to hear what some people think.

First a full sti conversion(engine, trany, ecu, wiring harness, diff, rear sub frame, dash, heating core, seats, everything over the legacy would just be a shell)(which i will being doing my self in my own garage)

Secound I was thinking of having a full custom wide body kit. 3 inchs wider in front and rear must be able to fit 10 inch wide tires all around.

Third I was considering having the whole car re painted to bmw steel grey.

Forth I was considering a full custom roll cage painted to match the color of the car.

Fifth I was considering having the hood, trunk, stock spolier, and possiably the roof of the car bing made in carbon fiber.

Sixth I was considering for my final project having the motor built, custom tunning. Bench mark is minumum of 600awhp. This is the time where i would also consider installing a supra rear diff and making the car rwd.

I know this is gonna be a hell of a proejct. i know why do it to an almost 10 yr old car. why a legacy; just get a new car. The reason is i think the legacy needs to get some respect and I want to do it. It is going to take more then 2 yrs to complete. She wouldnt be a street car any more, become a show car but insurance for it will be cheap.

Please pass along any of your views.

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Old 04-04-2006, 01:31 AM   #2
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I would think, that the cost of the carbon fiber, wide body, etc, you could put more into the motor, and make a H6 Turbo.

Don't make it RWD. Subies need to be AWD.

I like the wide body idea, but 3 inches, would be a bit too much.
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:09 AM   #3
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There will be no flaming from my end. Just a couple of suggestions. First, the carbon fiber roof would be a first in my book. That would be absolutely amazing. But, that would cost a fortune. Second, keep it awd, you know you want to. RWD is grand and all, but Subaru lives for awd, you can't take that away. Lastly, Kraziken is right, 3 inches is a bit much. Once you see 3 inches, you will realize that it would make the legacy look weird looking. The rest of it, including the roll cage, no matter what color it is painted, would be great. I wish I could afford one. In the end, it is your car so you do what you want with it. I'm just throwing in my honest opinion. Regardless of what you do, keep us updated, hopefully with some pictures.
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:37 AM   #4
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heck yes I'm gonna flame you, but not for all the car ideas...

If you are going to propose something, you need to do it without half a million typos. Get spell-check or something!!!


Now, I agree that a wild legacy would be nice, but I also agree that a few of your ideas should be toned down a bit. Go with awd, about an inch and a half wider body, and thinner wheels (10 inches is too much). Big engine, roll cage, paint scheme, carbon fiber... those are all nice touches.
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Old 04-04-2006, 11:46 AM   #5
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You're obviously day dreaming but here's the reality. My conservative ballpark figures are below (They're just a guess!!!):

1. $15k - full STi swap including everything you're talking about
2. $12k - widebody (includes tires and suspension)
3. $4k - custom paint
4. $3k - rollcage
5. $6k+ - CF
6. $10k - motor

Total spent (not including car) = $50k. What are you going to do with the car because you're sure as hell not going to be able to insure it for more than $5-10k if it's a daily driver?
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Old 04-04-2006, 12:11 PM   #6
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car is going to be insured as a show car where i can insure the car for all the pieces that were paided for. I sell insurance for a living i know exactly how im gonna insure it. lol

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Old 04-04-2006, 12:57 PM   #7
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Sounds ambitious. I guess you're doing ok in the insurance biz eh?
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:31 PM   #8
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I know Ive seen pics of a JDM legacy (pre 2000 body style) with a gorgeous widebody kit. So maybe FULL custom isnt neccesary, just some leg work. If you find it and still want to stant out more, alter that a bit. At least its a nice base. Just a thought, good luck with your project.
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:37 PM   #9
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I would love to see some of those pics. I have talked to a couple importers from japan and they said they havnt seen a wide body legacy kit ever. I asked 5; so if you can prove them wrong please foward me those pictures. Might give me an idea what the future project will look like.

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Old 04-04-2006, 03:49 PM   #10
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:54 PM   #11
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this thread hurts my head
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:16 PM   #12
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That pic i have seen once before but the problem that into was i asked the guy who took the photo's had no idea what kit it was and he as unable to ask the guy who owned it cause he didnt speak a word of english. I have personally spent 50+ hrs online trying to find a wide body kit. Also that dosnt look wide enuff. hahhhahahah

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Old 04-04-2006, 04:42 PM   #13
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1. Just to d WRX swap with a larger turbo and an STI shortblock.
2. Why 3 inches? Do you really need 10 inch tires?
3. I like it.
4. I like it, but do you need a full cage. Are you really going to be racing on the track at high speeds?
5. Good idea on the trunk/hood but for a one off custom run it would be over priced. There is a company that sells just the hood.
6. uh yeah, no.

So what do you plan to do with this car? I would think that a CF roof would make your car illeligible for track use/SCCA.

You should look at the thread in the Conversions forum where a guy is installing a vett motor into his subie. Also, didnt you try and turbo your car? How are you going to do all of this when your first project was a failure.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:43 PM   #14
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first project wasnt a failure. car is still runing strong after the custom turbo kit and tranny swap. it is 10 times better then stock but is still lacking what kind of power i want. the tuning for the car is perfect. the idle is steady. not any problems. boost creeps once in a blue moon but otherwise it is fine. That was just a temp solution. i allways wanted to do the engine swap. Also subiekid if u dont know what ur talking keep ur mouth shut.

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Old 04-04-2006, 05:41 PM   #15
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Holy expensive batman!
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Old 04-04-2006, 06:09 PM   #16
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1. Just to d WRX swap with a larger turbo and an STI shortblock.
why the hell would you put 2.0 heads on a 2.5? what the hell are you thinking? that whole statement is an oxymoron.

then you would be doing a hybrid swap.

truth is, that's a really ****ty way to do it. pointlessly laborious and costly as well.

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So what do you plan to do with this car? I would think that a CF roof would make your car illeligible for track use/SCCA.
NONEXISTANT WORD ALERT!

hell, try saying that word aloud at that!

Here's the lack of a definition
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That pic i have seen once before but the problem that into was i asked the guy who took the photo's had no idea what kit it was and he as unable to ask the guy who owned it cause he didnt speak a word of english. I have personally spent 50+ hrs online trying to find a wide body kit. Also that dosnt look wide enuff. hahhhahahah

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I swear, I am about to curse up a storm if you don't start using proper puncuation and spelling!!! You are hurting my eyes and brain as I try to patch together an intelligent statement from that mess...
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Old 04-04-2006, 06:30 PM   #18
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why the hell would you put 2.0 heads on a 2.5? what the hell are you thinking? that whole statement is an oxymoron.

then you would be doing a hybrid swap.

truth is, that's a really ****ty way to do it. pointlessly laborious and costly as well.



NONEXISTANT WORD ALERT!

hell, try saying that word aloud at that!

Here's the lack of a definition

Wow, you should calm down. The word I should have used is "ineligible" no big deal so back off. Hell the OP has more mistakes than my post.

Why spend tons of money on an overpriced STI motor when you can buy a regular 2.0L for a decent price and get about the same HP. If you had any knowledge off subarus at all you would know that it is common to swap the STI shortblock into a regular WRX. This will allow you to have a strong semi-closed deck block which will take more HP than the standard open deck block.
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I swear, I am about to curse up a storm if you don't start using proper puncuation and spelling!!! You are hurting my eyes and brain as I try to patch together an intelligent statement from that mess...
your about to flip out over that? simmer down son. people are getting waaaay to wound up over this. he just threw the idea out there and all it took to start a quarrel were his ambitions.

but whatever, i think it would be cool i fhe could pull this off. 3" wide is a little much, and yeah a hybrid 2.5 block/2.0 heads is kind of silly. a full sti swap would be where its at. obviously expensive, but A LOT money is going to have to be spent to do it right.

mr. spellcheck you can grade this if you want, doesn't matter to me.
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You can make a widebody as wide as you want. Just cut the quarter panels off a wrecked legacy!
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Old 04-04-2006, 07:05 PM   #21
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Why spend tons of money on an overpriced STI motor when you can buy a regular 2.0L for a decent price and get about the same HP.
AVCS my friend, AVCS.
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Old 04-04-2006, 07:24 PM   #22
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If you had any knowledge off subarus at all you would know that it is common to swap the STI shortblock into a regular WRX. This will allow you to have a strong semi-closed deck block which will take more HP than the standard open deck block.
he didn't say anything about a regular rex or any of that mess.

take the heads he has now. P&P, and cams.

better and cheaper than WRX or STi heads, respectively.

STi shortblock is $1500, without a hookup.

seems to me, that's by far the smartest route.

injectors plug right in.

as does a fuel pump.

deadbolt turbo

(insert the goodies we all know about here, i'm not typing that **** again)

stand alone or piggy back it.

there's a shotload of power right there.






doesn't really matter, he's gonna use the car as a monetary black hole so f' it. 06 AVCS it is!


oh, and sorry for jumping on your ass like that, really didn't mean it to all come on so strong.
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Old 04-04-2006, 07:31 PM   #23
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Ok, I think that's enough flaming for this thread. As ambitious as it sounds, he may actually do it. Technical help and suggestions are welcome, arguments are not.
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Old 04-04-2006, 07:33 PM   #24
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1-5 all good ideas, 6 rwd, not a fan.

why would it make sense to do a shortblock swap when he has to handle that power also. Full STi drivetrain, from the cost of the custom widebody(may as well get it custom since other stuff will be) a full drivetrain will be less headache and be stronger for his power goals.

step 7, send me check with car to do said work

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