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Old 04-04-2006, 08:11 AM   #1
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Default Zeroshift transmission to come for us Impreza owners!

Dear Brett

Thank you for your interest in Zeroshift.

We don't have any AWD Zeroshift transmissions on the drawing board at
the moment. Development programmes generally cost several hundred
thousand pounds and then the boxes would retail at several thousand
pounds. Maybe if you wait 12 months the situation may be different. We
have your details on our database and will contact you nearer the date
of production.



Yours sincerely




Dr Ray Heath
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Zeroshift Limited
Davy Avenue, Knowlhill
Milton Keynes, MK5 8PB
United Kingdom

Tel: +44 (0)1908 303022
Fax: +44 (0)1908 671282
Mobile: +44 (0)7702 890028
Reception: +44 (0)1908 303000
Email: ray.heath@zeroshift.com
Website: www.zeroshift.com


Take what you want from Zeroshift's official response to my inquiry about their transmission technology for our WRXs. I for one am stoked about this and hopefully will be one of the first to get a tranny swap in my 2006 WRX
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Old 04-04-2006, 08:23 AM   #2
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[i]Take what you want from Zeroshift's official response to my inquiry about their transmission technology for our WRXs. I for one am stoked about this ...
So they tell you there is currently no plan to support AWD and to check back in a year or so. And you get excited?
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:37 AM   #3
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Thank you for wasting my time!
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:47 AM   #4
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Read the response carefully -- it's obvious that they know that there's market in AWD transmissions.

Sorry for leaving you high and dry right now
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:08 PM   #5
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Dear Sir/Madam:

Currently, there are no plans for XYZ Rockets Corp. to offer powered space flight vehicles for retail to consumers. The cost of research and development on these vehicles is in the millions of dollars range and cost to the consumer would be upwards of several hundred thousand dollars.

However, as our products are constantly evolving, perhaps in another year or thirty, we may be able to provide a competitive solution.

In the meantime, thank you for your interest and please enjoy the free toy rocket we included. And keep dreaming!

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Old 04-04-2006, 01:15 PM   #6
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While the check back in 12 months might be encouraging, the very expensive cost of development is not. Wasn't prodrive working on an active suspension system many many years ago?
Otherwise, I think the other thread about the growing popularity of awd cars would suggest that companies like this will eventually in all likelihood consider something for awd.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:18 PM   #7
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Read the response carefully -- it's obvious that they know that there's market in AWD transmissions.

Sorry for leaving you high and dry right now
I crown thee the emperor of wishful thinking.
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Old 04-04-2006, 01:44 PM   #8
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Here's some other similar responses in real life situations that you may be able to relate to:

Interviewer to interviewee: "We'll keep your resume on file..."
Guy to girl: "I'll call you..."
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Old 04-04-2006, 02:14 PM   #9
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I genuinely enjoyed the responses

Seriously though, rumor is saying that this transmission technology will someday be standard for automobiles on dealership lots in 5 to 10 years. A tranny swap is already available for any vehicles with a Getrang 5 tranny. It shouldn't be that difficult to apply the transmission design to other trannies out there, including AWD systems.

Yes, I'll keep on hoping since it's already getting old trying to convince the WRX's gearbox to agree with my input.
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Old 04-04-2006, 03:35 PM   #10
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FWIW, that's the same response I got from them over 2 years ago. It is very interesting tech though.
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Old 04-04-2006, 04:29 PM   #11
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Garwin makes jumps in logic that are worse than my girlfriend. Hail to the king of wishful thinking!!!
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Old 04-04-2006, 07:12 PM   #12
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It'll happen sooner than later lol.

nabisco's feathers are ruffled as easily as those of ebaumsworld's
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Old 04-04-2006, 09:47 PM   #13
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Sorry to sound so ignorant, and noob like, but I've never heard of zeroshift. Anyone care to explain or point me to a source? Thanks.
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:08 PM   #14
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Dear Sir/Madam:

Currently, there are no plans for XYZ Rockets Corp. to offer powered space flight vehicles for retail to consumers. The cost of research and development on these vehicles is in the millions of dollars range and cost to the consumer would be upwards of several hundred thousand dollars.

However, as our products are constantly evolving, perhaps in another year or thirty, we may be able to provide a competitive solution.

In the meantime, thank you for your interest and please enjoy the free toy rocket we included. And keep dreaming!

Sincerely,
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Wait!! They sent you a toy rocket?! I feel robbed - I didn't get one in my letter from them!
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:09 PM   #15
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thanks for nothing
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Old 04-04-2006, 10:20 PM   #16
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It'll happen sooner than later lol.

nabisco's feathers are ruffled as easily as those of ebaumsworld's
Nobody here is ruffled. Every one is pointing out that you got the boiler plate fluff piece letter and somehow declared it significant. Ask the people that are waiting on GC8 carbon fiber widebody. It's been 5 years or more, with more substantial feedback then your letter.
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Old 04-05-2006, 07:26 AM   #17
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Dear Original Poster:

Thank you for your interest in NASIOC.

You haven't earned any credibility points at the moment. Credibility points generally require several posts that have at least some news along with the rumors, and even then can be lost almost instantaneously. Maybe if you wait 12 months the situation may be different. We have your details on our database and will contact you should we wish to review further vendor fluff.

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Old 04-05-2006, 11:11 AM   #18
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dont hold your breath..its been 12 months away for about 3 years now.. he posted on TampaRacing.com way back .. bout 2 and a half years ago.. and said the STi 6 speed was the next tranny he'd be developing.. never happened.
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Old 04-05-2006, 11:22 AM   #19
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Zeroshift Ltd’s Transmission Technology working under the Patented Zeroshift Principle is able to transfer power from the engine to the driven wheels without interrupting torque during changes of gear ratio.

So, what is this exactly?
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:21 PM   #20
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So, what is this exactly?
From what I've gleaned from some quick research on the internets... it's an engine that can power a nation, runs on toxic waste and excretes pure drinking water.

There are a bunch of press releases about how it's the best transmission technology in the world and how it makes DSG and all other types of transmissions obsolete.

Then they have a BS video on their site of a V6 Mustang with an automatic transmission and a switchplate where the shiftgate used to be. They keep punching buttons for upshifts (which is clearly just forcing a shift in the TCU), and pop-up an inset image of one of their 'zeroshift devices' on a bench tester. You can clearly see as the cogs (which look exactly like the synchromesh in a normal MT ) move from one gear to the other the video is sped up and every gear in the image is suddenly going much faster. Then they show him hitting the button again, and this time the cog moves in the opposite direction.. except the gears all start out slow and speed up again. At one point, I swear they're driving by a building that has 'ZEROSHIFT' superimposed on the side. Their little cutaway flash cartoon of the inner workings looks just like how many wind-up toys manage to autoreverse when they hit something.

If someone can point me to any proof that they have anything at all, I'd be happy to retract my statements that they got nothing.. a hoax.
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Old 04-05-2006, 12:44 PM   #21
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I genuinely enjoyed the responses

Seriously though, rumor is saying that this transmission technology will someday be standard for automobiles on dealership lots in 5 to 10 years. A tranny swap is already available for any vehicles with a Getrang 5 tranny. It shouldn't be that difficult to apply the transmission design to other trannies out there, including AWD systems.

Yes, I'll keep on hoping since it's already getting old trying to convince the WRX's gearbox to agree with my input.
This thread is retarded.


If you really want a high end transmission, whip out your checkbook and call some of these people:

http://www.grazianotrasmissioni.it/
http://www.xtrac.com/
http://www.quaifeamerica.com/
http://www.holinger.com.au/
http://www.sadev-tm.com/
http://www.hewland-engineering.co.uk/
http://www.ricardo.com/engineeringse...=transmissions


Obviously you'll need to pair whatever $30,000 transmission you get with something like a Tilton bellhousing to mate it to the motor, and have a machinist on hand to build axles for you from scratch... but hey, since you're such a baller, that should be no barrier for you.
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Old 04-05-2006, 04:49 PM   #23
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Aw, where's the news & rumors spirit?
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:12 PM   #24
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My dealer told my friend, who is 100% reliable and has banged the dealers wife, so I know the dealer must be telling the truth, said that zeroshift tranny's are going to be STANDARD in all MY2008 Impreza 2 doors!!!!!!11111
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Old 04-05-2006, 05:21 PM   #25
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Group buy!!

Maybe Zeroshift should take the f out of their name. Seems like that would be more accurate. Well, that and replace 'Zero' with 'FullOf'.
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