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Old 04-05-2006, 10:15 AM   #1
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I'm considering getting the short shifter option on an 06 wrx and I am wondering if it is fundamentally different than the aftermarket solutions from Kartboy or Cobb or the like. Its roughly $150 more for the factory one but I got the idea from somewhere that it shortens the linkages all the way to the transmission instead of just making a shorter throw...

With that in mind would anyone still recommend getting new bushings even with the factory short shifter?

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Old 04-05-2006, 10:29 AM   #2
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Get everything Kartboy. There are a ton of threads on this subject but in short, don't waist your money on the factory shifter; unless you plan on AutoX and your trying to stay in stock class.

Everyone that I know with the STI SS has had theirs replaced with a KB. The throws on the STI SS aren't really that short. I would drive a Rex around with a KB then another with the STI and of course your stocker before I made up my mind.

Sorry as I can't comment on the Cobb but I do love my KB stuff.
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Old 04-05-2006, 10:30 AM   #3
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The factory one will shorten the throw about 10%. that's quite a lot of money for what little change there is. You could get an aftermarket kit with all the bushings available (lots for 06) for a bit more than that and feel a HUGE improvement even over the "stock" short shifter.

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Old 04-05-2006, 10:40 AM   #4
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Great, thats exactly what I was looking for!

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Old 04-05-2006, 01:58 PM   #5
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I definately highly recommend getting the full TiC kit. They sell the kartboy shifter and bushings plus some of their own bushings. Best customer service out there!! I had a couple local guys who autox try out my shifter and I think they have already placed their order.

www.TurnInConcepts.com

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Old 04-05-2006, 02:24 PM   #6
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Oh hey Chris!! Funny that you mention that. I've been emailing with Tommy. We're trying to set up an appointment for him, but I'm going to Chicago for a few weeks so we won't be able to help him out for a while.

To the original poster - there are now full kits on the market. Front stay bushing, rear stay bushing, linkage bushings, pivot bushings, and of course lever.

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Old 04-05-2006, 02:55 PM   #7
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To the original poster - there are now full kits on the market. Front stay bushing, rear stay bushing, linkage bushings, pivot bushings, and of course lever.

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Thats a lot of BUSH! and not the GW kind!



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Old 04-05-2006, 03:20 PM   #8
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Old 04-05-2006, 04:11 PM   #9
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I've got both Factory Short shifter linkage and Kartboy SS with all the Kartboy bushings and it's fantastic! Definately get all the Kartboy shifter bushings for sure with whatever you go with.
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anyone ever just replace bushings to improve the feel without a new lever?
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:13 PM   #12
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All the time, and people love it.
For real?
I'm starting to get annoyed at the WAY vague feel in neutral between 3-4 shift(like I'm in a bowl of rubber bands). Also occassionally get gummed up in the 4-3 down shift...
I just want to FEEL the gates...
does changing the bushings do that?
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Old 04-06-2006, 06:32 PM   #13
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For real?
I'm starting to get annoyed at the WAY vague feel in neutral between 3-4 shift(like I'm in a bowl of rubber bands). Also occassionally get gummed up in the 4-3 down shift...
I just want to FEEL the gates...
does changing the bushings do that?

try the bushing combo first if you are happy with the length of the thows. if you wish to have them shorter do the shifter at the same time.

the bushings help "firm" up the shifter feel buy using a harder durometer. the OE ones are roughly a 78A durometer were as ours are a 95A

hope that helps

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Old 04-06-2006, 06:49 PM   #14
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Unless you are lucky enough to have one of the rare "lower durometer" Kartboy bushings from a few years back, 85A IIRC Tom?
My setup is- said bushings, factory short throw with the lever shortened 1-1/4", pivot ball on lever glued in place (was a bit loose on the shaft, adds some play). I also have a Momo set-screw type knob which allows for it to be pushed down on the shaft all the way, so between that and the cut shaft it sits quite a bit lower than stock. I like it, good feel and mechanical feedback, there is a bit more side-play than I'd like but that's mostly in the trans and nothing external is going to really fix that. I might try a set of the TIC lever bushings though, cheap enough and might help a bit with that play.
I'd gotten used to the shifter setup over time, but recently I got the GTO which has a stock shifter that feels like a baseball bat in jello. After a few days driving that I got back into the WRX and it felt like a Formula 1.
FWIW though, the short throw was on my car when I bought it. Knowing what I know now I probably wouldn't have purchased it as a separate option at full price and would probably have gone for the Kartboy.
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How can you tell if a 05 STI has the SS or not? I've only driven the 05 STI & that was just for a test drive. Nothing to compare to...
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How can you tell if a 05 STI has the SS or not? I've only driven the 05 STI & that was just for a test drive. Nothing to compare to...

if you pull the boot down and look at the color of the shifter. the 6speed ones are as follows.
Gold OE
Black STi short.
5 speed ones.
Black grey shaft about 1" diameter OE
Gold about 1/2 " diameter STi option

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Tom,
was just on your site. To do the above mentioned swap, would I need the combo ($60ish) for 6spd (for an 06 sti)?

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Tom,
was just on your site. To do the above mentioned swap, would I need the combo ($60ish) for 6spd (for an 06 sti)?

thanks
that is correct. all the 6 speed parts are the same.

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