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Old 04-10-2006, 03:19 PM   #1
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Default Cobb Tuning has released a FP18G specific map for the 2006 WRX MT...

I wanted to let you know the FP18G calibration for the 2006 WRX MT has been released and is available for free downloading from our web site = http://www.cobbtuning.com/wrx/accessport/25index.html

Please be sure to thoroughly read the map notes prior to using this map. We have composed these map notes to help educate end users about several pieces of hardware we have specified including the FP18G turbo and the size of the hole in the restrictor pill. This map is specifically designed to work with the Forced Performance brand of turbo chargers. We want to do everything we can to ensure that the performance of these maps is consistent and optimal; we will be paying attention to this thread to address any questions you may have concerning this calibration.

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Old 04-10-2006, 04:57 PM   #2
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wow neat stuff!! good job the Cobb crew
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Old 04-10-2006, 05:29 PM   #3
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Good stuff Christian. One random question - what was the highest manifold boost pressure you saw with a stock '06 WRX 5MT? Subaru lists 11.6psi.
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Old 04-10-2006, 07:18 PM   #4
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20g maps are in order...
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Old 04-10-2006, 07:49 PM   #5
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Chiketkd, the stock calibration sets the boost targets for ~11.7psi of relative pressure. I do not have any stock datalogs handy, but I would imagine peak boost pressure is around that reading.

Boost_Junkie, the 20G mapping is coming along...but it is only for the STi. We have just released two maps for the 2006 WRX, the VF39 and the FP18G, so I need to spend more time on the STi and 2002-2005 WRX. I do not think I will be developing new calibrations for the WRX for a few weeks.

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Old 04-10-2006, 08:03 PM   #6
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the 20G mapping is coming along...but it is only for the STi. .
Now I have no reason not to get an AP
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:09 PM   #7
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hope you will make the 20g work for the wrx, cause i dont think it will be all that uncommon to see the wrx's with 2.5s running the 20g...seeing as you can use the 20g on stock injectors

its all good, thats what protunes are for
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Old 04-10-2006, 08:57 PM   #8
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on forced performance site, I can only find a 16G that you can put a 18G wheel in...is this the turbo your using? is there a difference?

also, on the map notes for all maps i keep seeing a boost cut number for sea level...what exactly does that mean? does it mean that that is target boost @ sea level?

Thanx...and and $$$ is needed now LOL I want that 18G setup...the curve is much nicer for my style of driving than the mid range power band created by the VF's.

Awesome work!
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:49 PM   #9
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is there ever gonna be a legacy GT upgraded turbo map?
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Old 04-10-2006, 09:53 PM   #10
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Christian,

I battled and battled and battled and battled and battled to get you your own AccessPort forum and you go and not post in it? Shame on you!!! You have your own forum now, so post this kind of stuff there.

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Old 04-11-2006, 01:55 AM   #11
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any plans on a fp18g maps for an 02 wrx?
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Old 04-11-2006, 02:10 AM   #12
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any plans on a fp18g maps for an 02 wrx?
We are currently working on the 16G for the 2.0L motor since it is idealy sized. The 18G is better suited for the 2.5L motor.

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is there ever gonna be a legacy GT upgraded turbo map?
Yes, I will be working on turbo options and specifications later this week. This map is going to take a while.

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on forced performance site, I can only find a 16G that you can put a 18G wheel in...is this the turbo your using? is there a difference?
also, on the map notes for all maps i keep seeing a boost cut number for sea level...what exactly does that mean? does it mean that that is target boost @ sea level?
I would contact FP to make sure they know you want an 18G. The boost cut value is the fuel cut value for over boosting. So if your vehicle exceeds the boost cut for a duration of time the ECU will cut fuel to protect the motor.

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Christian, I battled and battled and battled and battled and battled to get you your own AccessPort forum and you go and not post in it? Shame on you!!! You have your own forum now, so post this kind of stuff there. Ron
No problem, I thought the 2.5L forum would be more appropriate. I will be sure to post information similar to this here from now on. Thanks for battling.

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Old 04-11-2006, 03:20 PM   #13
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wow 18 pages of map notes
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Old 04-11-2006, 04:11 PM   #14
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Jaxx,

We have always had requests for upgraded maps...we felt it necessary to educate the end users about what modifications they are performing, how various vehicle systems work, and to establish specifications for these parts. We want to do everything we can to ensure that the performance of these maps is consistent and optimal. Please read over those map notes and let me know if you have any suggestions or observations. I am open to constructive criticism.

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Old 04-11-2006, 04:29 PM   #15
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Hmm... Wondering if its only me. I saw the 18G map on the website last night on my home computer but its not listed on the website anymore when I checked at work.
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Old 04-11-2006, 04:41 PM   #16
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Hmm... Wondering if its only me. I saw the 18G map on the website last night on my home computer but its not listed on the website anymore when I checked at work.
I would refresh your web browser at work so you get rid of any cached information.
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Old 04-11-2006, 11:29 PM   #17
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Wow, I was in the market for a vf39, but then I found out about the "cracks of doom" and I was all bummed out. I now have something new to plan for Hooray!!!!
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Old 04-12-2006, 01:44 AM   #18
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We are currently working on the 16G for the 2.0L motor since it is idealy sized. The 18G is better suited for the 2.5L motor.
Awesome news! I sold my UTEC a few weeks ago and am now waiting for my AP, this is great news as I am looking at going with the FP16G as the turbo upgrade on my 2.0.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:13 AM   #19
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wow...with all the actuator adjustments you think this is a good idea for what is usually a bolt on upgrade with flash for the end user?

Another question, you mention in the notes "Pre-loading the wastegate actuator arm; adjustments of the wastegate actuator rod (if the rod length is not fixed and adjustments can be made)" .... dont all fp18g's have adjustable wastegate actuator rod? If not will the none adjustable ones work? Are the none adjustables, adjusted to your spec?

More...What hp/tq numbers did you pull on your dyno? What numbers did you pull with the vf39?

I dont want the vf39 because of the damn cracks I keep hearing about. I'm a bit nervous to go with the fp18g because of the actuator arm adjustments.....Seems like if I were to go with the 18g I'd more then likely want to have it pro-tuned just to make sure I did everything right..

Thanks, good work by the way keep it up!!!!
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Old 04-12-2006, 12:32 PM   #20
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so the 18G uses stock injectors i guess? didnt see anything mentioned about them by skimming the map notes.
and for the 16G, i guess since you are working with FP you will be supporting their standard 16G with a flow rate of 510 cfm?
thats too bad, i've got an 03 WRX that I'm putting a Super 16G onto (585 cfm) but i'm using 800cc injectors... i'm going to be protuned anyways but it would have been less limiting to actually have a somewhat calibrated map to use to help with scheduling the install and tune dates.
oh well, thanks for adding new maps, i'm sure it will be a good thing for the company and its customers.
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Old 04-12-2006, 02:26 PM   #21
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suggestions

#1 list of what is required for install at the top
#2 list of places where those things are avaiable ..some are not at your local pepboys espically the restrictor/dial indicator
#3 bigger bold type to not use this map if you don't have all of the things above

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so the 18G uses stock injectors i guess? didnt see anything mentioned about them by skimming the map notes.
The stock 2006 WRX fuel injectors (560cc) are sufficient for the 18G turbo.

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and for the 16G, i guess since you are working with FP you will be supporting their standard 16G with a flow rate of 510 cfm?
Correct

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wow...with all the actuator adjustments you think this is a good idea for what is usually a bolt on upgrade with flash for the end user?
We want to do everything we can to educate end users about modifying their vehicle. Using the incorrect parts or not following the specifications can lead to motor damage or destruction...which is something we would like to avoid.

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Another question, you mention in the notes "Pre-loading the wastegate actuator arm; adjustments of the wastegate actuator rod (if the rod length is not fixed and adjustments can be made)" .... dont all fp18g's have adjustable wastegate actuator rod? If not will the none adjustable ones work? Are the none adjustables, adjusted to your spec?
The FP16G and FP18G wastegate actuator rods are adjustable, I just used general text like this for all of our map notes. If you have a wastegate actuator rod that is not threaded then you will not be able to adjust wastegate pre-load.

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More...What hp/tq numbers did you pull on your dyno? What numbers did you pull with the vf39?
Top of document = http://www.cobbtuning.com/wrx/access...20ProTUNER.pdf

Jaxx,
#1 Our current description at the top of the document tells you what parts are needed. I have modified the new text to this:
Description: FP16G 91 MTv100 AccessPORT calibration for 2002-2003 WRX MT vehicles using only the Forced Performance FP16G turbo specifically, STi or equivalent TMIC, Denso/STi pink fuel injectors, & turbo-back exhaust system on an otherwise stock vehicle. 49 state 91 or 92 octane fuel. 243.6 WHP / 225.7 ft-lbs. Results may vary.
DO NOT USE THIS CALIBRATION IF YOU ARE NOT USING THE EXACT PARTS SPECIFIED OR IF THE HARDWARE YOU ARE USING IS NOT OPERATING AS SPECIFIED IN THIS DOCUMENTATION.
#2 Noted
#3 Done

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i'm shocked that stock injectors, even at 560cc, can handle the flow of an 18G... but if thats the setup you've been working with then i trust ya...
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Hey,

Is Cobb coming with other maps for different turbos for the 2006 WRX in the near future?

Could someone please tell me the turbo part number for a 2006 WRX??? Also the VF39 and the FP18g turbo are both from a STI? what year and what is the difference between them. Where can i buy a FP18g or a VF39 and is it worth it if i wanted to do the Cobb satge tow VF39 and the FP18g?


Thank you for your time.
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no stock subaru has a 18g to my knowledge.....you should be able to buy the correct 18g from forced peroformance themselves...google "forced performance"
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