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Old 10-03-2001, 06:30 PM   #1
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I can't remember which trim our Turbo's are can anyone else elaborate. All I know is that it is a T-03 thanks

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Old 10-03-2001, 07:48 PM   #2
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I think it's a B

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Old 10-03-2001, 07:55 PM   #3
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.48 / .63 -- Don't remember which is which, but I'm guessing .63 is the intake (compression) side.
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Old 10-03-2001, 07:56 PM   #4
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What does that mean? I hear people talking about a 60 trim and stuff and don't know what I have. do I have an old outdated trim or a new trim?

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Old 10-04-2001, 10:00 AM   #5
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the T3 or T4 part is the size of the housing (the casing that gives the turbo it's "look") the Trim is how big the compressor/turbine blades actually are. Ours is .63 on the compression side. It's VERY important that the trim is thought out when turboing a car.


Also, there's no such thing as "old" trims, it's just the size of the blades in the turbo.
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Old 10-04-2001, 12:14 PM   #6
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the .xx numbers are refered to as "Aspect ratio" numbers, relating to chord and span of the blades to eachother..
in otherwords a .63 turbine has a chord that is 63% of its length(span)...correct me if I am wrong.
Try a search on turbo terminology...
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Old 10-04-2001, 03:00 PM   #7
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I have no idea what kind of turbo my T3/T4B is. It actually looks smaller than the T-3. And, What kind of T4 compressor A/R is .42? That is way too small. It's not even listed anywhere probably because it's so out dated. I should have gotten the T4E.
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Old 10-04-2001, 03:17 PM   #8
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IMPBOY, tiny turbo man.....that might be your turbine side though
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Old 10-04-2001, 09:40 PM   #9
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It is, and I'm pissed. I wanted a bigger turbo for max power but I paid more for less. Not only that, this turbo was either used or rebuilt. More likely used because it came in a plain box with oil dripping out of the oil holes. The thrust I feel when I gun it, is not much more than when my car was N/A. I wonder if I'll even break the 14. So disappointed to Ludespeed and Tom.
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Old 10-05-2001, 12:58 AM   #10
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Wait... so our Turbo's suck?? I'm going to be just a little upset if so. How do I tell which kind I have?

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Old 10-05-2001, 03:01 AM   #11
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OK, I've been doing some research on my turbo to figure it out. this is what I have come up with.

My P/N on my turbo is 466586-9003A. According to websites, this Turbo comes from a 1985-1986 Ford Mustang SVO. the engine was 2.3L and made 200hp@4,800rpm and 240 lb/ft@3,000rpm. The specifics of the Turbo are that it is a TB0344

It appears that the Compressor A/R is .60 but it states that the Turbine varied from Manual to Automatic. The Turbine side of the automatic got an A/R of .48 while the Manual got an A/R of .63! I can;t figure out which mine is but the P/N ends with 9003A I'm not sure if the "A" stands for automatic or what. I can't find anywhere how to distinguish from one another. Is there numbers on the Turbine side that would tell me this? I hope this is a Manual unit and not an automatic unit. I will probably have to upgrade the turbo anyway.

Anyone else have a P/N. I will look it up for you

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Old 10-05-2001, 10:54 AM   #12
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IMPBOY, If you can get a decently priced Turbokit with a turbo that is NOT rebuilt, good for you, otherwise stop bitching. Most turbo's sold are rebuilds, and a rebuild is actually damn close to new. The only thing "used" we're the housings/casings. You're skating on the line of slandering Tom's business, and it's rather irritating. The Turbo itself is out of his hands, it's in the hands of Florida Atlantic Turbo, the builders. If you have a problem or question, CALL THEM and let them know. Don't just sit there and fume about it, call.

Also, when I get on the gas under boost, the car hauls. At 3.5psi I clicked a 14.8 at 95mph. My 60' time was 2.214, I bogged, BAD. With a good launch, my car could possibly run a low 14. I have a T3.

When I'm off boost, the car drives like normal. Like I said, if you have such a big problem with the turbo CALL! I might even have the number at home, and I could e-mail it to you later.

Imprezinator, good job hunting that stuff down. Remember, the guts of the turbo as well as the blades are new, the casing and such are used.
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Old 10-05-2001, 03:24 PM   #13
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Sure rebuilding the turbo is out of Tom's hand. But choosing the turbo its was up to Tom and he could either have made better choice or at least tell me that it was a rebuilt/used. I was underassumption that it was new because he didn't say anything about it. Tom didn't even give me the spec of the turbo or where he got it from when I asked him several times.

Jewbaru, did you even see the IC sent me? People who saw it knows that it looks like a peice of crap. I'm just expressing my impression of the kit because some people might want to know.

I guess you're happy that you can run low 14's but that was not my goal. I paid more for more power to run at least mid 13's.

How can you say the blades are new when there is oil dripping from the center block and exhaust residue on the turbine in my case?

If you can't help, then don't tell me to stop bitching, because I think Ludespeed's turbo that Tom put together sucks.
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Old 10-05-2001, 03:52 PM   #14
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Choosing the turbo type is up to Tom yes, but what he get's is a different story. The turbo builder sent me the wrong turbo when I got my replacement, good thing the correct one was rushed out and they showed up the same day. Mistakes happen. I find it hard to swallow that Tom didn't tell you that, I had no problem finding out what I needed to know when I spoke with him on the phone.

My IC wasn't the cleanest thing on earth, so I polished it. Again, the ICs were out of his hands. He got the cores, and had them welded to spec, he expressed his dissapointment with the quality. To sum it up, they did a crap job, flat out. HOWEVER, looks DO NOT affect how the Intercooler functions. I polished mine up for the hell of it since it was out of the car, and it was easy to do. There was nothing Tom could do about the ICs, period.

I'm happy I can run low 14s at 3.5psi. I'm not trying to blow up my engine right now. I'm going to slowly turn up the boost so I don't end up like many of the other RS-T owners, posting how they fried a piston, or killed 2nd gear. At higher boost, mid 13s are more than possible, but I'm patient, I can wait. I want every thing to work in harmony, I didn't expect to bolt the turbo on, go to the drag strip, and rip off a 13.6. If you did, I'm sorry, but it doesn't work that way.

I didn't say YOU'RE blades were new, I said in rebuilds, the blades are usually new. You might have gotten a bad turbo, did you bother to call and mention it before you installed it? There's even a chance the turbo was "pre-oiled" when it was being built.

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I just posted that, so I CAN help. The number is at home, the company is Florida Atlantic Turbo in Orlando, FL. Call, tell them the deal, and find out what's going on. Don't sit there bitching on a computer, get up, and take action.

Mistakes happen, and you're not making anything better by constantly complaining. Hell, being polite goes a long way to getting what you need.
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Old 10-05-2001, 09:58 PM   #15
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So you talked to him over the phone, have a few chitchats and then next thing you know, he's your best buddy. Why didn't he give me his number when I asked him for it? Why didn't he give me more detailed infos and didn't reply to my e mails? I don't know the answers. Only Tom knows.

Sure looks aren't what really counts but he could have at least made it look decent enough so that it's not an emabarrasment.

You're implying that I'm impatient and don't know what I'm doing with my car? What makes you think I put the kit on and went straight to the strip to rip off 13.6? Where are those comments sourced from?

Speaking of being polite, weren't you the one that said "bitching?" Very polite there.

I have been more than patient and have plenty of knowledge to turbo charge my car and keep it run safely. Don't you think I want everything to work in harmony? Well, it would have gone that way if the parts I have now are the right parts I paid for. My Cartech RRFPR from Tom was defective. I spoke to Corky Bell at BEGI and he gave me a new one, just to tell you as an example. I had several other incorrect parts and fitting problems besides the known intake pipe which I'm not going list everything here because it will be too long.

So what if the blades are new in rebuilds. Does it sound like I have new blades in my turbo? I don't think so. Sure they might have pre oiled the turbo, with exhaust residue on the compressor wheel and housing to make run more smooth right?

It's been almost two months since I've benn running on turbo. I highly doubt Tom or Florida Atlantic Turbo would take reponsibilty and do anything about it, but if you give me the numbers, I will make the calls just for the sake of you blamming me for not taking in charge of solving my own problems.

I guess the bottom line is that you're satisfied as long as the product works regardless of its quality and performance. Well I'm not. Since you're satisfied what is the connection that I MUST be satisfied also?
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Old 10-05-2001, 11:09 PM   #16
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IMPBOY,

Sorry to hear about your Turbo Kit. I didn't think it was that bad but I guess it was.

I will have to agree with you on some things. Fittings were not perfect but luckily I had some help to get those things fitted when they needed to be fitted correctly. It also took us 18 hours to install the kit, but we also had a lot of little problems that caused it to take that long.

mcgyver and I installed the kit, but when mcgyver installed his JC Sports kit, he said he did it by himself in 4 hours. The JC Sports Kit may not have been well supported but when it came done to it passed with flying colors compared to the LudeSpeed Kit.

As for my Intercooler and Turbo I guess I might have been very lucky, since the Intercooler was well made and looks great for a hand made IC. The Turbo is just a T3 and seems much bigger then yours, which was a surprise to me but I guess that is how they make it.

Are you still having problems with idle? Or was that solved? I am actually installing 440cc injectors this weekend and will see how they work. Hopefully much better then the stock ones. I'll let you know how it works out.

Have you tried polishing the IC, hopefully to make it look a little better. Someone did that and it seemed to help.

Overall I would say the quality of the products were pretty good on my end, not the best stuff I have ever seen but not something I would return either. As for the service, what can you expect from a Turbo group buy? Not to much I think, they have never gone well for any company and probably never will. As for Ludespeed in particular I think he treated his customers much better then some companies would treat theres. I am not naming anyone but they are pretty obvious.

Would I buy from him again, IMO yes I would. All in all LudeSpeed was very helpful when I called him on the phone, and he was willing to sacrifice to make the me the customer happy. I will say I did wait a long time, but in the end that was fine with me, as long as the kit was complete and working properly.

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Old 10-06-2001, 05:45 AM   #17
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My kit fits and works well. Spool up is great, power is great. Engine management sucks, but that is in my ballpark at this point.

FYI, I got my car back today, so I reinstalled the kit yet again -- every time I do it, it gets easier. *shrug*
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Old 10-06-2001, 01:49 PM   #18
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Even though quality of the kit is disappointing, I can live with it because there is no big effect on the performance of the kit. But, the turbo is a different story. Turbo has the biggest contribution to power. That is why I'm pissed because of the turbo being so tiny. On top of that, it might even be a used one that has 80 K miles already. Who knows. I'm not really complaining about the kit, just the turbo because I feel like there isn't much I can do to fix it without spending crap load of money. That's my point.
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Old 10-06-2001, 02:01 PM   #19
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Can you guys all post your Turbo P/N on here (it's on the little green tag) so I can look u what it is. thanks

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Old 10-06-2001, 02:05 PM   #20
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There is no little green tag on my turbo but I was going to post the numbers printed on my turbo tomorrow anyways.
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Old 10-06-2001, 03:11 PM   #21
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You don;t have a tag attached to one of your bolts? you should. it says what kind of turbo it is and where it came from originally. weird

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Old 10-06-2001, 11:59 PM   #22
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It is weird. Like I said, it just came in a plain cardboard box without anything. Just the turbo itself. Imprezinator, did you get the T3/T4B from Tom also?
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Old 10-07-2001, 12:01 AM   #23
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no. I got a stage 2 kit with a straight TB03 turbo

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Old 10-07-2001, 01:53 PM   #24
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All i hear about the ludespeed kit is that it doesn't fit without cut/reweld and the Piece of Sh#t turbo....how are the performace figures tho???does the stage 1 kit pull??at what rpm???what are some real timeslip 1/4 miles you guys pull???the only turbo cars i sat in are the supra twin turbo and the audi a4....does it pull like the stock a4???thanks...soco
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bump...i really wanna know some performance figures...does it pull???
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