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Old 10-04-2001, 03:15 PM   #1
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Default Need a bigger turbo to run with the big boys!!

My turbo is trashed and I will tell you why, If you dont want to read my story then just reply back with the best bolt on turbo for me to replace it with. Anybody tried the VF22-23.. Are they reliable and what did you have to do to make it work with your WRX.

Well Im not going to point any fingers, yet.. that will be a different thread, but somehow after leaving a certain shop (getting my new clutch installed) I have a high pitched whinning sound coming from my turbo. I drove it home and popped my hood thinking it sounded like a vacumn leak, I checked everything but was really scared because their was oil everywhere under my hood especially around the intercooler and BOV.. I check my oil and there is like 2 extra courts of oil, and that is after its been spraying everywhere, I am really getting pissed now because the shop I just came from bitched at me because I was supposidly running like 3 qts low so they added some for me.

I bring the car back to them and they start saying its my fault, the nitrous broke it. I told him I hadnt even used it, and it wasnt making these sounds before I brought it in here, I know the turbo was off when he put the clutch in so I thought he might of messed up when putting it back on. He pretty much told me he wasnt going to fix it and it would cost me a grip for him to look at it again.

I then took it to suby specialties and they have been totally nice about fixing my car, he took the turbo apart and found that somehow a object got in there and broke my impeller, and now I need a new turbo!!

The big question is, which turbo is good and wont break, I have been looking at the VF22-23. I really want one that will bolt up easily but really give me some power, Any imput will be great I need to pick by tomarrow.

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P.S Anyone know of a good attorney, how about you alfriedesq
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Old 10-04-2001, 03:19 PM   #2
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Al, the retained midigator of the I-Club!! YES!

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Old 10-04-2001, 03:19 PM   #3
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Check out the VF30 too. It won't make quite as much power as the VF22, but it is supposed to spool _much_ faster.

Good luck with that shop, I hope you nail them to the wall.
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Old 10-04-2001, 03:20 PM   #4
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I really dig the PE18 series turbos. I plan on doing a PE1820 sometime after the first of the year. They are ball bearing, bolt-on and flow in the 635cfm range. Almost double stock.
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:07 PM   #5
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yeah i'd suggest the VF30 turbo.. it can make just as much power as the VF22.. spools quicker aswell.. and contrary to popular opinion .. it is a ball bearing turbo..

http://www.mrtrally.com.au/shop/sear...N=&PRODUCT_ID=

that link shows some information about the Turbos.. eventhe Garret 450-500 Hp Turbos..
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:13 PM   #6
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I don't know if you are looking for a kit or what but a T04 series turbo is one of the best turbos out.. It is reliable & has been around for a long time... I would think a T04E would be about the right sizing.. I am not sure about the A/R.. I am new to the WRX & boxer engine...

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Old 10-04-2001, 04:31 PM   #7
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Does anybody know what the boost rating is on the VF-30..or what it flows. So far I am leaning towards that one. any write ups, or just someone that has any of the ones on their car.

I heard the PE 1820 is good, does anyone know the costs, or what needs to be modified to fit it to my car?

Thanks again for the replies
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:38 PM   #8
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Well my man - i have several suggestions for you depending on the $$ you want to invest !!!!

Initial concept - put everything back to stock and get a wrranty job . . . . ???

First - i could sell you a bone stock turbo real cheap - like $350.00 which you could have ported and polished

Second - my man Wille - Imprezastivi@aol.com - has a brand new VF 22 in the box which he may sell real cheap !!!

Third - get a PE 1820 or PE 1818 for like $1680.00 shipped from jan Shim

Fourth - contact imprezer and see what the Bozz Speed unit he is using goes for - that looks liek a great turbo also

FIFTH - the ultimate - the best - # 1- - get the HKS monster turbo from Jan Shim for $2300 and rule the roost !!!!!
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:39 PM   #9
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Does anybody know what the boost rating is on the VF-30..or what it flows. So far I am leaning towards that one. any write ups, or just someone that has any of the ones on their car.

I heard the PE 1820 is good, does anyone know the costs, or what needs to be modified to fit it to my car?

Thanks again for the replies
The VF 30 is a piece of crap - no ball bearing rip off !!!

PE 1818 - great unit - direct bolt on - - only lengthen one coolant hose and your in !!!!
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:47 PM   #10
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Al, the retained midigator of the I-Club!! YES!

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SOA sucks on warranty issues - yestreday a friend of mine was denied warranty cliam on engine problem because he had a knock link installed - thats just plain old NUTS - - not fair - too much injustice . . . . . what does a mere knock link have to do with how the engine runs - its total injustice !!!!!!!!!!!! They are just using the mods as an excuse to avoid having to fix the car !
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:48 PM   #11
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Al, your the man, im going to email your friend now and see about getting that VF-22. The cheapest I have seen it new is 950.00 If not then Im really thinking about your old turbo for 350. I will get back to you on both. Thanks again bro!!
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:49 PM   #12
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Al, your the man, im going to email your friend now and see about getting that VF-22. The cheapest I have seen it new is 950.00 If not then Im really thinking about your old turbo for 350. I will get back to you on both. Thanks again bro!!
I know he will give you a great deal on the VF 22 if you act fast . . . !
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:49 PM   #13
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alfriedesq, do you have a link to the HKS turbo you're talking about?
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:51 PM   #14
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I just checked MRT's site...they list the VF30 as BALL BEARING...you can pick one up from them for 950 USD, plus shipping.
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Old 10-04-2001, 04:56 PM   #15
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alfriedesq, do you have a link to the HKS turbo you're talking about?
jan shim has all the links and info - he is on this board - - he also has a dyno sheet that will blow your mind - it has all the top end power of my turbo and a totally flat trq curve with more than stcok low end ! simply the best turbo available

the $2300 includes the uppipe as HKS uses differnt flange - - but i think it will require some fabrication to make it fit prefectly - nothing hairy - - -
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Old 10-04-2001, 05:10 PM   #16
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{simply the best turbo available

the $2300 includes the uppipe as HKS uses differnt flange - - but i think it will require some fabrication to make it fit prefectly - nothing hairy}

I had an HKS single turbo kit on my last car...put down 687rwhp!!

The finish is absolutely incredible...i will no doubt buy the HKS turbo kit for my WRX when im ready

You wanna help me with the install Al

Damn, its gonna be nice having fast WRX's in Connecticut

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Old 10-04-2001, 05:12 PM   #17
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{simply the best turbo available

the $2300 includes the uppipe as HKS uses differnt flange - - but i think it will require some fabrication to make it fit prefectly - nothing hairy}

I had an HKS single turbo kit on my last car...put down 687rwhp!!

The finish is absolutely incredible...i will no doubt buy the HKS turbo kit for my WRX when im ready

You wanna help me with the install Al

Damn, its gonna be nice having fast WRX's in Connecticut

Greg
Sure - we did the install on Willies' PE 1820 last week also - - I got all the tools and a nice garage !
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Old 10-04-2001, 07:38 PM   #18
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Your friend isnt writing back, maybe you can get in contact with him. Is it really brand new. I just want to make sure im not going to buy a used turbo unless its your old stock one. I have the money for a new VF-22 so I could send it to him tonight or tomarrow.
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Old 10-04-2001, 08:21 PM   #19
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Default IHI VF30 is NOT a ball bearing

Contrary to what MRT says about the VF30 turbos being ball bearing, they are not. Here are some photos of the VF30 internals to confirm that it isnt ball bearing.

Both the PE1818 and PE1820 are in stock! So are bolt-on STi 565 cc/min Injectors, PE 210L/hr Fuel Pump, Sard Fuel Regulator, HKS GT2835/GT3037S and Greddy externally wastegated turbine kit. The price Alfriedeq quoted for the PE turbo is slightly incorrect, please email me for more information (PM has been disabled).
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Old 10-04-2001, 09:58 PM   #20
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Your friend isnt writing back, maybe you can get in contact with him. Is it really brand new. I just want to make sure im not going to buy a used turbo unless its your old stock one. I have the money for a new VF-22 so I could send it to him tonight or tomarrow.
He still has it I checked - its NEW NOT rebuilt and in the box - I saw it - as virgin as snow white !
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Old 10-04-2001, 11:11 PM   #21
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Thanks Jan. Oh well. So much for considering MRT a wealth of information.
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Old 10-04-2001, 11:17 PM   #22
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Looks like Im going to have to go with the VF-23 unless someone says different.. I have read to much problems on this board and others to go with the 22. Although It was for an awesome price. I havent heard anything bad about the 23 and the 30 isnt a ball bearing so thats why that one is out

Just dont have the money for the Bozz or PE. The PE is about 700 dollars more so that's what changed my mind. i just dropped 1000.00 dollars to put in this clutch. My trust Fund just doesnt go that deep.

The VF23 is 950.00 no shipping because I can drive to the place and pick it up. If there is a PE 1818 or 1820 for even 1200 I would easily take it but Ive only seen for like 1700 plus shipping...

Let me know if you guys see any deals.
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Old 10-05-2001, 07:14 AM   #23
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hey jan........ do you have someplace we can check out the specs,dynos ect on that hks monster?????
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Old 10-05-2001, 10:29 AM   #24
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Ummm GB from god on the PE series 1600 i think...

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Old 10-05-2001, 12:54 PM   #25
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Here's a dyno graph of a friend's '98 UK spec WRX running the HKS GT2835 turbine. The car is near stock except for HKS EVC IV boost controller and HKS Type S FMIC. At the time of dyno, the car was running only stock 380 cc/min injectors and stock fuel pump. Imagine the same turbo fitted to a US spec 2002 WRX running STi 565 cc/min injectors and big fuel pump, running 1.3 kg/cm² boost, OH MY GOD!

http://dyno.scoobynet.co.uk/uk/nito_morelli.htm

Looking at a turbo review by HyperREV Impreza No.3, The GReddy TD06L2 20G-8cm² turbine kit produces 357.4ps @ 1.2 kg/cm² and 383.5ps @ 1.4 kg/cm². According to the 1.2 kg/cm² dyno graph, the TD06 turbo starts to spool as low as 2000 rpm, feels the kick at 4,000rpm with boost peaking at 6490rpm. Power is sustained till 7500 rpm before the curve takes a dive.
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