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Old 04-18-2006, 11:29 PM   #1
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Default Another grounding mod

I wasn't going to do this, but my brother wanted to try it. Overall I'm happy with the results.

I used a monster cable post splitter. It's not absolutely necessary, but it helps clean up the wires. My brothers install was a bit messy.



A pic of the battery with the ground removed.





Some split it up to 5 points, but I just tried 3 extra grounds besides the stock ground.

Here are two points



And one to the block.





A pic of the monster cable post attached to the battery.



A long distance engine shot.







My brother wrapped the red wires in black electrical tape to identify them as grounds. I just wrapped the ends in black. I figure it was a bit of bling to add to the engine compartment. He bought the red wiring in the first place, because it was the cheapest.




I seriously doubted this was going to do anything, but both my brother and I noticed smoother idle. Almost a different idle tone.

The butt dyno doesn't really register any more power.

But what I do notice is acceleration in all gears from different rpm ranges, it feels much smoother. I don't feel the slight hesitations.

It's entirely possible to get the same results, but using a thicker cable for the stock ground, or even just cleaning off the ground and making a better contact. I'm not sure. I used a dremel tool to smooth the stock ground point and also "rough" over the paint on the other two install points.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:33 PM   #2
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yeah, that's what I noticed too.

Also- less A/C lag.
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Old 04-18-2006, 11:50 PM   #3
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Hmm, I have that same battery but mine does not fit that well, I need to get longer cable.
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Old 04-19-2006, 12:03 AM   #4
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oh yeah, where did you get that ground plug thingy that lets you plug all your wires in? I might do that when I redo my grounding kit. (wires are a bit on the...pink side, now)
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Old 04-19-2006, 12:15 AM   #5
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Ah, it's referenced as a power battery terminal from Monster Cable.

I got this from my brother when he was working at Magnolia hi fi, although circuit city, car toys should have these things. Somewhere around my house I have another one of those things floating around. I've had them for over a year I think.

I think it was around $30. Some of these accessories are way too expensive, in my opinion, but they do neaten things up.

http://www.monstercable.com/mpc/prod...&section=three

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Old 04-19-2006, 01:23 AM   #6
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Nice write up. A full list of part numbers would be good too. Sorry to be so demanding.
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:19 AM   #7
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Nice write up. A full list of part numbers would be good too. Sorry to be so demanding.
Well ask and you receive I guess.

Not all of these items are necessary, but here's what I used.

1) Crimpers. These full size crimpers work better than those "all-in-one" strip crimp tools

2) is a set of very nice ring terminals. They are screw on type using a hex wrench. About $10 to $15 if I remember correctly.

3) Is a set of slightly less expensive crimp style ring connectors, about $8

4) Is a set of cheapy Home depot style ring connectors, about $3 for this small box

5) is some shrink wrap tubing. (part number 3, streetwires ring set comes with small bits of shrink wrap already)

6) 8 gauge monster cable wiring

7) mini torch for shrink wrap ends, although you can use a lighter

8) bits of color matching zip ties

9) Dedicated round cable stripper. it's not absolutely necessary to use this, but I like this tool. (very helpful for making cat 5, cat 6 cabling, it has a depth screw, so you can set how deep the blade cuts the outer jacket, nicking the small wiring inside for network cable is BAD). You can use tool number 1 to do this job.

10) the monster cable battery terminal, which I provided the link above.


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Old 04-19-2006, 02:29 AM   #8
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looks very good, i like that a lot. i've been meaning to clean up my grounding job for a while now, but i just haven't put forth the time. i just used a generic L bracket from Home Depot for my multi-grounding point. it works, but it looks ghetto as all hell. i might pick up one of those Monster splitters now that i know they exist! any idea how much the 5 point ones cost?
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:43 AM   #9
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Great. Thanks. And now, I'd like a strawberry shake. Chop chop.

I keed, I keed.
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:43 AM   #10
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Well I don't think I've seen a battery terminal with more than three contacts. You could just double up on some of the posts.

On the far left contact I used it for the three grounding point additions.

The center one, I cut the end off the original ground for the main electrical system, and used the nicer ring terminal by itself.

On the right side, I attached the default stock ground, and also the ground point for my hella horns. To attach two more ground points I'd probably just distribute them evenly among the three connections on the Monster battery terminal.

Somewhere floating in my house is another one of those monster battery terminals, when I find it, I'm going to clean up the Power side.
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Old 04-19-2006, 02:47 PM   #11
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I might be able to get a deal on a few of this Monster Battery Terminal. I will check and let you guys know. I can get cable as well.

I have the kit from www.camotoy.com. Haven't installed it yet.
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Old 04-20-2006, 11:40 PM   #12
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I'm surprised you ran them all individually like that. I daisy chained mine across the intake manifold, and to the Fender Walls. Remember, these are grounds... the return circuit for current.

I've also noticed a smoother idle, smoother RPM increases, and brigher hi-beams. No more HP, but that's not the point of it anyway.

I did mine in black, you can't even hardly tell they're there.
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Old 04-21-2006, 02:49 AM   #13
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I'm surprised you ran them all individually like that. I daisy chained mine across the intake manifold, and to the Fender Walls. Remember, these are grounds... the return circuit for current.

I've also noticed a smoother idle, smoother RPM increases, and brigher hi-beams. No more HP, but that's not the point of it anyway.

I did mine in black, you can't even hardly tell they're there.
I actually followed the instructions on scoobymods. The example I looked at wasn't daisy chained.

My brother did his in a similar fashion, and wrapped it in black electrical tape, so it isn't noticed as well. His entire engine compartment is black so the red would look out of place.
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Old 04-21-2006, 02:08 PM   #14
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Think I'd be ok with 8gauge black ground wire from Monster?

Having trouble finding the 4gauge black ground.
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Old 04-21-2006, 10:25 PM   #15
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Nice work Ken... looks good too!

Here's an online resource for misc. parts... i've bought from them a couple times, good prices and quick service:

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ID=18&wt.svl=2
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Old 04-21-2006, 10:53 PM   #16
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Quote:
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Here's an online resource for misc. parts... i've bought from them a couple times, good prices and quick service:

http://www.partsexpress.com/webpage....ID=18&wt.svl=2
they seem to be pretty expensive
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Old 04-22-2006, 01:13 AM   #17
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I am pretty sure 4 gauge wire is overkill.

If you are patient I can get you the wire from Monster at a good price, let me know what length you need. I will ask my friend to get me a roll of black.
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