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Old 04-21-2006, 04:31 AM   #1
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im sure you have to tune thies cars for after market intakes ...any hints just got an AFE intake im not sure if there out yet but this kit looks awsome ill get some pix after install thanks
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Old 04-21-2006, 07:32 AM   #2
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Do you have a WB02 to check your AFR's? You're going to need to make sure the intake functions properly and doesn't cause lean/rich problems.

If you search, you will find about eleventy million posts on intakes/CAI's. Many of them don't provide much benefit over the stock airbox (with a good filter in it). Some of them are good, and some of them are trash and cause harm. Even the best of them don't provide power potential until you have the supporting hardware to make big power.

If you have an FMIC, then you basically have no choice but to use some type of short-ram or CAI. If you don't, then an intake most likely will not be necessary for most people.
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Old 04-24-2006, 10:57 PM   #3
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yes i have the LM1 i did a few runs with stage 3map the air fuel is great untill the higher rpm then its way rich like 9-1 , i was atempting to turn down the timing so i can start leaning out the fuel but as soon as i took some timing away it went up to 10.4 , why is that? im going to try the utec logger
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Old 04-25-2006, 05:46 AM   #4
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UTEC loggs would help a lot, so you can see directly how changing one variable affects the others. It might also be worthwhile to use the stock airbox for a bit and make some logs, then put on this intake (without changing anything else) and see what your logs look like. The logs and your WB02 will help you to stay "safe". The AFE intake is new to the market, so it's really anybody's guess what it will do.
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:36 AM   #5
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so far it sounds bichin... u can hear the turbo and stock bov .. i think ill put the stock air box back in and do a few runs with the Gtech and then put the AFE on and see what i get , id like to tune it first ..
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The G-tech runs aren't going to tell you anything about the intake as far as leaning out goes, which is a serious concern. I'd be careful and run some logs with the stock box first. The car might very well be faster with this intake on it, but if it's running lean, it will only be faster until holes develop in the pistons!
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haha no no, the Gtech is just to see my hp gain from stock air box to the AFE system.. i have an LM1, i loaded the stage 3map i know i dont have the biger tmic so im going to turn down the boost , i did notice it hit like 16lbs to 17lbs with the AFE kit.. i get knock in 3rd at around 5,500k rpm ... the air fuel starts from 12:1 at idle to 9:1 at 7k in 3rd , im gona find a road i can get into 4th .. should i first get the boost levels right? then move to the air fuel ratio and then work on timing? i just dont know whats the best steps to take and if theres any one in so cali willing to help me out and show me some stuff i would kindly pay them
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Work on your boost levels first, and make sure you watch 4th gear, since you will be under more load and may get more boost in 4th as a result. If you'd like someone to tune your car, hit Gruppe-S and let them dyno tune it.
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here a log i got but for some reason it didnt give me the whole log let me know what u guys think

MPS_UTECLogger: LogMap File
LogMap Created: 5/3/2006 11:21:28 PM

Comment: place logmap comment here...


LogMap: Air/Fuel Ratio
MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 11.15 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 11.22 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 11.34 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 11.45 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 11.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 11.16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 11.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 11.19 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 10.96 12.86 0 13.27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 10.95 0 0 0 12.48 12.33 11.75 0 0 0 0
3500 11.21 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.92 10.76 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.64 10.69 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.44 10.48 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.44 10.39 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.58 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.37 10.48 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.26 10.19 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.36 10.28 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.39 10.32 10.3 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.24 10.27 10.2 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.1 9.97 10.5 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.96 9.86 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 9.72 9.77 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: Boost Pressure

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 -2.-2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 -1.-6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 0.-6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 -1.-8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 -2.-2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 -1.-9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 -3.-4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 -6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 -4.-4 -5.-4 0 2.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 -7.-7 0 0 0 4.3 6.2 8.4 0 0 0 0
3500 -8.-6 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.2 13.5 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.9 13.9 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14 14.1 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14.1 13.7 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.5 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.9 10.1 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.5 13.8 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.6 14.3 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.9 13 13.9 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.6 13.1 14 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.4 12.5 13.7 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.6 12.2 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 12 12 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: Timing

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 16.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 18.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 26.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 31.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 31.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 33.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 36.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 34.4 28.6 0 20.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 40 0 0 0 17.2 14.9 11.8 0 0 0 0
3500 40.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.9 8.7 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 10.8 9.5 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 13.1 13.1 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.1 10.9 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 14.4 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17 15.4 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19.7 19.7 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 19.6 20.4 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 21.9 18.8 21.8 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 23 20.9 21.7 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 22.7 21.7 24.4 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 22.1 21.9 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 23.5 23.4 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: Stock ECU Timing

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 16.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 18 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 21.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 26.9 21.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 31.7 26.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 31.9 28.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 33.6 25.9 20.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 36.4 24.7 21.2 9.5 7.9 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 34.5 19.7 18 0 0 0 5.8 0 0 0 0
3250 40.2 0 0 15.4 8.9 0 0 5.8 0 0 0
3500 40.3 0 0 12.8 0 0 10.3 8.2 0 0 0
3750 37.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 7.1 8 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12.8 11.4 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 11.5 9.7 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 12.2 8.9 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 17.3 17.1 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 18.7 19.2 0 0
5250 0 20.8 0 0 0 0 0 21.2 20.7 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 15.1 22.5 17.5 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 23.9 24 15.9 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 24.3 24.5 0 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 26.6 26.1 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 27.9 24.4 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: IDC (Injector Duty Cycle)

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 7.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 8.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 12.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 13.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 15.6 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 19.5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 24.2 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 27.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 28.7 24 0 31.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 14.9 0 0 0 36.7 45.3 51.3 0 0 0 0
3500 13.7 0 0 0 0 0 0 55.4 57.2 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 62.8 57.3 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 66.6 69 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 70.7 72 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 77.7 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 80.8 80.5 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 84.2 85 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 90.9 89 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 91.2 94.1 91.3 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 96.3 99.1 94.9 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 95 98.2 97 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 100 100 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 100 100 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: MAF (Mass Air Flow)

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 1.9 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 2.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 2.17 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 2.23 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 2.29 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 2.39 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 2.37 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 2.27 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 2.39 2.77 0 3.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 2.19 0 0 0 3.3 3.4 3.5 0 0 0 0
3500 2.17 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.55 3.6 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.5 3.6 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.7 3.65 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.7 3.8 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.8 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.9 3.85 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3.94 3.97 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 4 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 4.4 4.1 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.5 4.1 4.1 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.1 4.1 4.1 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.1 4.11 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 4.1 4.1 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: TPS (Throttle Position)

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 16 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 21 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 15.4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 13.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 14.8 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 11.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 8.1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 10 32 0 82 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 7.1 0 0 0 95 97 97 0 0 0 0
3500 6.3 0 0 0 0 0 0 97 97 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 97 97 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 97 97 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 97 96 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 96 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 97 97 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 96.6 97 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 96.6 96.8 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 96 96.8 97 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 96 96.8 96.7 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 97 96.6 97 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 96.6 96.8 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 88.2 93 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: Knock

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



LogMap: Hit Count (recorded items per cell)

MAP/RPM 0 10 20 30 40 50 60 70 80 90 100
500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1000 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1250 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1500 4 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
1750 7 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2000 14 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2250 34 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2500 49 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
2750 49 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3000 21 3 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
3250 13 0 0 0 1 1 1 0 0 0 0
3500 6 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 1 0 0
3750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
4000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 2 0 0
4250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 0 0
4500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 0 0 0
4750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 2 0 0
5000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 7 4 0 0
5250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 8 6 0 0
5500 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 9 2 0 0
5750 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 6 3 0 0
6000 0 0 0 0 0 0 3 9 1 0 0
6250 0 0 0 0 0 0 9 16 0 0 0
6500 0 0 0 0 0 0 4 4 0 0 0
6750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
7750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8250 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8500 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
8750 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0
9000 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0



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