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Old 05-30-2001, 11:52 AM   #1
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Post I just got my new 4 channel amplifier!!!

Well I just got my MA Audio 4 channel amp that I ordered a couple days ago. I haven't gotten a chance to hook it up yet. I am still waiting to purchase many other components before a complete install is done.

Anyway I got my MA Audio M480i
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for around $200 from a guy that runs a shop up in New York(ELECTERICDAD@AOL.COM). Very nice people. They shipped it out the morning after I payed and it was on my doorstep the very next day.

I'm not sure how many other Legacy owner's are car audio fanatics like me but I will keep everyone posted as to what I purchase, how much it was, and where I bought it.

Currently I have a Sony ES CDX-860ES DSP CD-Player and my 4X100watt RMS MA Audio M480i. My plans are to purchase a set of components both for the front and back. I'm thinking of going with the Audiobahn ABC600X.
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These are rigid aluminum coned 6.5s with nice butyl rubber surrounds. The best price price I have found so far on these is $92 each and that was on ebay. These will be powered by the M480i.

For the low end frequency reproduction my plans are 3-Audiobahn Alum 12X.
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A friend of mine has a single 12 in this model and I am very impressed with its accuracy and tightness. It has a great ability to reproduce a broad (bass) frequency range accurately, and these woofers sound great in a 1 cubic foot box. OK you caught me. I am a little bit of a bass fanatic. I occasionally like to roll the windows down and really turn up the subwoofer gain. The best price I have found is $137.50 on ebay.

The amp power the subwoofers will be an MA Audio HC2502. www.soundhabit.com sells these for $349.
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I will probably need a capacitor or two to suppliment the stock electrical system.

I like the fact that the Legacy has a huge trunk and even with three 12s in there I should still have plenty of room.

I will post more info as it all comes together.

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Old 05-31-2001, 01:51 PM   #2
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Looks like some pretty sweet stuff. Stereo is one of the next things I'm going to work on, but I'm not nearly as into it as you appear to be. A 4 channel amp, some components in the front doors, and maybe modify the rear deck to hold 6x9"ers or something like that and I'll be happy.

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Old 05-31-2001, 06:16 PM   #3
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Pat, You really ought to consider a sub, even if it's self contained like the new Infinity. Regardless of the kind of music you crave I can guarantee that a sub and 100 watts or so will improve the overall sound by a factor of 2 at a minimum! Just my $.02!

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Old 05-31-2001, 07:02 PM   #4
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I got a Subaru 'factory' (dealer installed) sub in mine. Decent, but not awesome. I also have the regular factory 'paper' speakers (those have got to go).

Any tips on how best to replace the speakers on the rear parcel shelf ?

I think I am better off sticking with the 6 1/2", then in doing major surgery just to put in some 6x9"s.
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Old 05-31-2001, 08:34 PM   #5
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IMO, 6x9's are only good if you really feel like you need a loud sound, and won't go with subs; a 6.5 is usually going to sound better and clearer (of course there are exceptions) than a 6x9, even if it isn't as loud.....

but whatever floats your boat I had 6x9's in the back of omy last car, and it sounded fine, until I got my sub and cut out the low frequencies to the normal speakers, the 6x9's sounded pretty crappy, and they were nice pioneers.....
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Old 06-01-2001, 06:26 AM   #6
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I've never been much of a subwoofer kinda guy, but perhaps I should look into it. Any good places to research other than good ol' Crutchfield?

Honestly, I probably wouldn't ever get around to cutting up the rear deck to fit 6x9s, it was just an idea.

As far as components for the front doors go, will aftermarket tweeters fit into the Subaru tweeter enclosures? My car has the premium speaker package (the little amp and sub under the driver's seat, plus the tweeter kit), so it would be kinda nice if I could use those stock tweeter spots.

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Old 06-01-2001, 08:10 AM   #7
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I would strongly encourage a sub. These come in all forms as you know from tubes to individual box speaker combos. When we say sub don't think of that punk kid with a lowered honda with altezza lights thumping down the street at 11pm at night. Think of a more defined bass line and a more realistic thump from the bass drum. Do a comparison. I'm not sure if your into Dave Mathews Band or not. Pop one of there CDs in the player in your car and listen on your stock system w\ out a sub. Then find someone with a mosdest subwoofer setup such as 1 10" sub or a single 12. The music seems to come alive.

I totally aggree with the comments made above about 6X9s. They make a lot of noise but will not give you a satisfying defined sound. Whatever 6.5" component set you decide to buy to replace your front speaker, use the exact same set for the rear. Now your system is acoustically matched and balanced all the way around.

By the way guys. What is the deepest 6.5" woofer that will fit in our door pod? I don't want the window hitting it. Also how do you get the panel off to remove the door speakers??

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Old 06-01-2001, 09:01 AM   #8
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By the way Crutchfield is a good reference manual. The prices they sell for are about retail. So note that their prices are the highest that you should pay for a particular item.

Check this system out and tell me what you think for your car.

Use two set of the 6.5" components I listed above.

MA Audio makes a six channel amp that has the same power rating as the 4-channel that I listed above. So you would be able to run your front and rear speaker off the first four amp channels then use the last two channels to run an audiobahn 10" woofer. The AWP210 would be perfect.
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This sub 10" sub would work wonderfully in a .5 cubic foot box. That would hardly take up any space in your trunk.

The only thing I left out is wiring and fusing. Let me know if you are interested so I can look around and find the best place to buy the things listed above.

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Old 06-02-2001, 01:40 PM   #9
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Brad - According to Crutchfield's fitment guide, we should be able to fit speakers up to 1 7/8" deep in the doors. Not that great. But, I would think with components you don't need quite as much clearance in front of the speaker (no tweeters sticking out of the middle of the speaker), so maybe you could space the speakers out towards the door panel some to get more clearance behind the speaker?

As for the components, are you suggesting the 6.5" and tweeters front and rear? Again, I'm faaaarrrr from an expert on this stuff, but I'm used to seeing tweeters only in the front, and the rears are more for bass/mid-range support.

Not to be a pest, but again does anyone know if aftermarket tweeters will fit in the Subaru tweeter enclosures by the sideview mirrors?

Finally, Brad, yes I would be interested in you telling me where to go for good deals. I'll be honest, though, I have no idea whether any of the stuff you're recommending is any good. All the names you're mentioning are names I've never heard of, which means one of two things: either (1) they suck, or (2) they're the automotive equivalent of Paradigm - excellent stuff, but they spend $0 on advertising and rely on word of mouth to keep costs down.

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Old 06-03-2001, 03:19 PM   #10
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Pat your very right as far as the brand recognition thing. Both Audiobahn and MA Audio are mainly sold through internet vendors. I stumbled upon Audiobahn products about two years ago and have since shut out any ideas of buying anything but. I have owned and heard ecerything from JBL, Rockford, JL Audio, Kicker, Infinity, and Kenwood. In my own opinion and experience I have found that Audiobahn equipment is top notch qaulity for a steal of a price.

As far as puting a set of 6.5"s in the rear most stock stereo systems don't come with a tweeter set. But by using duplicate speaker set in the front and back you get a tonally balanced system. As far as a speaker to produce more of the low end frequency that is specifically what the sub is for. most stock system use the rear speakers and the trunk to try and create a little more bass but the result of trying to reproduce bass frequencies from a small speaker is bad.

I will look around at some of my frequently visited audio websites and see about good pricing on the products I listed above. I have had great experiences buying new products from Ebay.

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Old 06-03-2001, 06:08 PM   #11
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Get a single 10 inch! sounds very good! I got 180W pioneer premier seperates up front amped by 150x2 pioneer amp. very crisp and clear! and 2 sony 450w xplod 12's in the rear powered by a legacy 400x2 amp. amazing bass. this is a very loud setup and very clear and clean. i put some alpine 3 ways in the rear 6 1/2's only as a filler. i would nto suggest putting 6X9's in the rear. just put some good 6 1/2s up front and amp them... you will be happy! and on yea put a single 10 in the trunk! sounds yummy!
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