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Old 03-20-2000, 07:26 AM   #1
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Hey gang...

just wanted to let u all know i FINALLY have them & they are installed!!! i am running them with the H&R springs against the general consensus of the main board

oh well, that's me! So far they are freakin fantastic, but it's only been 3 days!

If you are gonna order them for your Legacy, don't even bother telling the distributors (SPD being the exception) that you are putting them on a Legacy - they will insist KYB doesn't make them for our car. Just use the Impreza part numbers and tell the distributors they're for an Impreza.... I've even spoken to techs at KYB about this... they were very surprised when they realized the Legacy/Impreza part numbers were EXACTLY the same!!!

I did a search/quote request with about every major distributor out there. SPD's price is darn near unbeatable. You may want to try Summit Racing as well, but I know Mike Shields is very reliable so you can't go wrong with SPD!!!

sorry so long... just wanted to share the info!

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Old 03-20-2000, 07:14 PM   #2
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Can you give us some more details on how the car rides? I know you've only had them a couple days, but any info would be helpful. The AGX is adjustable, right? If so, can you adjust them to pretty much ride like stock, and then firm them up for fun when necessary?

Also, how is ride height affected? I guess in your case it's probably dictated more by the springs. I'm thinking of going for the KYB's and keeping my stock springs.

Thanks for the update.

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Old 03-20-2000, 09:50 PM   #3
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Do go on about the handling. Got my struts today and am trying to find a good place to install them - the dealership charges $78golden dollars/hr.

How long should the job take?
Did you re allign you wheels? If so, what are your camber/toe in specs? (guess it should not change cus the springs were already on the car)

What are the do and don'ts during the install do I need to look for?

Thanks for the info.
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Old 03-21-2000, 06:35 AM   #4
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hey guys... ok...

So the car rides really nice... i have the KYB's set at 2front/4rear which is a "medium" setting... just about similar to stock, but a tad stiffer. pretty nice for everyday driving... i think though i will turn the rears up a notch just to see what type of difference this creates.

I can not wait to rally cross this car! this thing corners soooo much better - don't get me wrong, it did well with just the H&R's but now it feels like it's on rails... the struts really made an incredible difference.

Ride height is about the same as it was. The H&R's seemed to lower the car just about an 1" in front, 1.25" (guessing) in rear. The struts seemed to have no effect on the height of the car.

I will be getting an alignment this week just to be certain we have everything set the way it should be.

Things to watch out for during install??? man... there are so many! I will post later about details on that!!

The job took a really long time - expect at least 4-5 hours i'd say, although I have heard of it being done in 2-3.... (good luck!)

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Old 03-21-2000, 09:42 AM   #5
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Reason it took more than 4 hours, was because we kept stopping for a beer and a chat... :-)

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Old 03-21-2000, 10:02 AM   #6
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Tips for installing:

When removing the front struts, be sure to slacken off the bolt at the top of the strut before before removing the strut from the car.... we learned this one the hard way and it took up much time!!! we ended up re-installing the strut inorder to slacken the bolt!

Instead of bleeding the brake lines, you can cut the braket holding the brake line. This allows the brake line to be slid out from it.

On the front struts, take note of the exact position of the markings on the top of the two lower bolts. Otherwise camber will be out. You have to try and get them set back at the correct markings/notch - I am getting an alignment just to be sure we got it right.

according to those who assisted me, this about covers it... any other questions, let me know.

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Old 03-21-2000, 03:53 PM   #7
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Wait...you mean all this time I was waiting for the AGX's to come out for the 97+ Legacy and the Impreza's will work?? I can't believe this!!!

So the AGX's for the latest Impreza are what you got? Got any part numbers?

If this is true, H&R/AGX combo here I come!

Kevin www.lagging.com

PS Thanks for the tip Jamie!
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Old 03-22-2000, 06:31 AM   #8
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Hey Kevin!
part numbers are
FR 734006
FL 734007
RR 733010
RL 733011

they ride so nice! you'll love them!

good luck!

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Old 03-23-2000, 01:28 PM   #9
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Jamie

Hi, I have been trying to get H&R springs to fit my GTB but have been told they don't exist over here for any 95-99 legacies - do you know the part numbers for a 95 wagon for all 4 springs

Thanks Paul
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Old 03-23-2000, 06:42 PM   #10
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Jamie,

How did you attach the speed sensor to the front strut - I don't see a bracket for it?

I'm probably taking it to a shop to do it so I dont want them to fool around too much making some bracket that I dont need - if I really dont need it - and charge me for that time.

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Old 03-25-2000, 12:10 AM   #11
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gtman:

Try a junk yard for a earlier model 2nd gen legacy, the ABS lead bracket is a bolt on (instead of welded like my 99) on at least the '95 front-ender I got my brackets from...

they fit perfectly on the AGX's

if you go to the dealer, unfortunately
you have to buy the whole sensor lead to
get the bracket...

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Old 03-26-2000, 07:13 PM   #12
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Jamie,

How did you attach the speed sensor to the front strut - I don't see a bracket for it?
you are gonna crack up... pretty creative here...
we used some zip-ties and tape... yeah.. w/the KYB/AGX there's no bracket... this will work though... believe me, that thing isn't going anywhere...

the local shops wanted $400 for installation!!!
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Old 03-27-2000, 10:45 AM   #13
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I sure hope you are right about this info SubieGal (don't see how NOT, since you are running with them). I checked the part #'s you gave me and they are indeed the numbers for the AGX's for the Impreza. How come no one realized this earlier? And if this is the case, how come Mike Shields says that the suspension items for the Impreza will not work on the Legacy?

I am planning on ordering the shocks from an East Coast vendor...if they don't fit/work I am screwed. Did you get the part numbers right off the boxes?

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Old 03-27-2000, 11:05 AM   #14
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i did get the part #'s off the boxes... and... i called KYB and talked to both a US and JAPANESE rep at the same time... we sort of made this "discovery" ourselves... the techs were very surprised...

i checked the part #'s that MShields sells... the fronts are actually for a Nissan according to KYB... the rears are the same part #'s as the Impreza...

i don't know what else to tell you other than they are on my car and they ride GREAT!!
those are definately the part #'s i ordered and installed....

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Old 03-27-2000, 08:36 PM   #15
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Originally posted by Force[FED]:
How come no one realized this earlier? And if this is the case, how come Mike Shields says that the suspension items for the Impreza will not work on the Legacy?
Kev
generally the only differences between the impreza and legacy are the springs/strut damper rates, not the physical format -- AGX works cuz it's adjustable... you could stick a Prodrive Impreza setup in there but the rates would be all wrong.

ps, having purchased my AGX's from SPD, I can confirm the part #'s are the same as the impreza.
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Old 03-28-2000, 04:50 AM   #16
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Glad to hear all this. I won't be ordering my parts from SPD, since there is an East coast distributor that I have dealt with in the past, and they give me good deals. Besides, I can also save on shipping since the shocks would be coming from my state (NJ).

Thanks gang!

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Old 03-29-2000, 12:17 AM   #17
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I think NJ sales tax beats UPS shipping charges any day.
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Old 03-29-2000, 07:22 AM   #18
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Looks like I am getting the shocks for $440 SHIPPED to me, and no tax. The shop is located in PA, but the shocks are in a warehouse in Jersey.

I think that pretty much beats most places on price. Looks like I am going to install the H&R's and AGX's this weekend.

Got any info/tips that I should know in advance Jamie? Any specific/special tools I would need?

I sure hope my Team Loco wheels with 215/45/17 tires don't rub

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Old 03-30-2000, 12:39 AM   #19
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WHERE DID YOU (FORCE[FED]) BUY THE SHOCKS FOR $440?
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Old 03-30-2000, 04:26 AM   #20
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E-mail me and I will give you the details. I haven't ordered the AGX's yet because I want to make sure that my wheels/tires don't rub first (that would suck royally).

E-mail me at forcefed@hotmail.com and I will give you the place to talk to.

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Old 03-30-2000, 07:03 AM   #21
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Kev -

read the beginning of this thread for all the tips...

and my car actually came up a little bit after installing the struts! it was fairly low and now sits just a tad higher than it used to....

let me know how it goes!

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Did you happen to get a price on these KYB's from Shox.com ?? Those guys seem to win everytime I priced out something with them.
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I'd emailed Shox.com for a quote and never did get a reply... i got my KYB's from a local dealer for $100 a corner....

not too bad... about the same price that MShields has... (SPD)
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Old 03-31-2000, 04:21 AM   #24
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RDEnterprise (shox.com) used to be kicka$$ when I ordered some DSM stuff from them a few years back. But lately they don't seem to have the same customer service as before, and their prices are no better than most. If you hunt around you can probably find a local place with prices that are just as good.

For me, shox.com is 3000 miles away, and shipping on heavy items is expensive. Much better to just order from the East coast.

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