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Old 04-26-2006, 01:22 PM   #1
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Default Gaskets for 97 GT HG Repair

I called a local engine shop to get a quote for my head gasket repair. He gave me a total parts and labor price ($934 + tax) which I'm assuming doesn't included the upgraded gaskets I have been hearing about.

What do I tell them I want them replaced with? And where do they get them?

I've heard there are 3-layer metal gaskets, 4 layer gaskets, and just to order '04 STi gaskets. Can somebody please tell me the best / safest option?

Where do I tell my shop to get them from? Someplace online or the local Subbie dealer? If anybody has specific part numbers, that would be amazing.

Thanks for your help.
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Old 04-26-2006, 01:43 PM   #2
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Whatever HG you get, it would probably be better to buy them yourself online and have them install it. Should save you some money and ensure you get the right stuff.
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Old 04-26-2006, 02:22 PM   #3
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the gaskets are only about $35 each if i remember. is that price before labor? i spent about $600 in parts when i just did my HG's but i also got a clutch and some other stuff..
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:15 PM   #4
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i saw a complete gaskets set for sale on eBay for 140$ but i can't tell if it's good stuff or not...
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Old 04-26-2006, 05:47 PM   #5
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shop around for a better price, i got my whole engine gasket set on ebay for a little less than $15.
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:08 PM   #6
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you dont really need that many gaskets.. heres a list of what i replaced..

hg's
both valve cover gaskets
4x sparkplug gaskets
2x cam gaskets
12x valve coverbolt gaskets

thats about all youi need, i did also relace my waterpump + gasket and rear oil seperator plate cause mine was teh plastic leaky one.
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Old 04-26-2006, 06:25 PM   #7
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the latest gaskets, are 4 layer metal. i think, but am not 100% sure, they are 04' STI gaskets because they're the same gaskets used on the STI. dont hold me to that.

anyway, the part number for teh 4 layer metal gaskets is 11044AA610 and you need 2 of them.
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Old 04-26-2006, 07:35 PM   #8
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shop around for a better price, i got my whole engine gasket set on ebay for a little less than $15.
An entire engine gasket set for $15? I found the $140 deal that Carlito referred to and figured that was a pretty good deal - the OEM gasket set is closer to $200.

I'm really curious what you got for $15. Hell, a set of the header gaskets costs almost that much!

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Old 04-26-2006, 09:57 PM   #9
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the latest gaskets, are 4 layer metal. i think, but am not 100% sure, they are 04' STI gaskets because they're the same gaskets used on the STI. dont hold me to that.

anyway, the part number for teh 4 layer metal gaskets is 11044AA610 and you need 2 of them.
Is this part number something I should take directly to the Subaru dealer, or is there a website I should order from? I don't know if the shop wants me to take care of it, or order it themselves, so I'd just like as much detail as possible going into this phone call. Thanks so much.

EDIT: I half answered my own question... now I have another.

I searched on SubaruGenuineParts for the part number and found this listing:
11044AA610 $37.95 $0.00 $27.55
Engine - Cylinder head & valves - Head gasket
HEAD GASKET, All Models - 2.5L, 1996-98 1996 - 1998

So they carry the 4-layer gaskets as replacements for '96-'98s or this isn't the 4-layer / STi gasket?
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Old 04-26-2006, 10:03 PM   #10
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the gaskets are only about $35 each if i remember. is that price before labor? i spent about $600 in parts when i just did my HG's but i also got a clutch and some other stuff..
My quote was parts and labor. The previous owner replaced the clutch and water pump last year so I do not have to deal with that.
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Old 04-27-2006, 09:09 AM   #11
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Is this part number something I should take directly to the Subaru dealer, or is there a website I should order from? I don't know if the shop wants me to take care of it, or order it themselves, so I'd just like as much detail as possible going into this phone call. Thanks so much.

EDIT: I half answered my own question... now I have another.

I searched on SubaruGenuineParts for the part number and found this listing:
11044AA610 $37.95 $0.00 $27.55
Engine - Cylinder head & valves - Head gasket
HEAD GASKET, All Models - 2.5L, 1996-98 1996 - 1998

So they carry the 4-layer gaskets as replacements for '96-'98s or this isn't the 4-layer / STi gasket?
that is a 4-layer all metal gasket, i know that for a fact because i just ordered those last month and put them on my engine!

i dont know if its the same as the gaskets used on the STI or not, to find that out e-mail or PM subiegal and ask her for the part numbers, she'll know fi there is a difference. I think the STI uses 3 layer all metal gaskets, not 4 layers, but i could be wrong.

buy your parts wherever you feel comfortable doing it, i got all mine from subarugenuineparts.com but if you'd rather use your local dealer then go ahead. my local dealer sucks, so i went around them. if you want to just let the engine shop order them, find out where they plan to do so! then go from there, if they are getting them from subaru, and you dont want the job of doign it yourself, then fine. but if they plan to order them from "crazy bobs house of chee-zy head gaskets" i'd get the parts myself from subie gal, because thats where i found the best prices.
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:43 PM   #12
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UPDATE: Called the shop owner and his prices were getting a gasket set directly through Subaru. Do they sell kits including the 4-layer? Maybe he already quoted me with the gaskets I want because that's what shows up for a '96-'98 on subarugenuineparts...

He said he'll call with the part number from you guys (thanks!) and see what is included and the best way to get all the parts he needs. Anyone else think it would be worth paying the extra $60 for him to order the gasket set (if it isn't the upgraded ones) and 2 of the 4-layer gaskets?
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Old 04-27-2006, 01:55 PM   #13
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I'm telling ya, you dont need teh gasket set if youre just doing the HG's. I went in to my dealer and asked about the kit and they said i would be wasting money.. that i wouldnt use 1/2 the gaskets cause its a full engine overhaul kit. but thas just my .02

i found my parts list i got from my dealer..

pt# 13270AA082 gasket rocker cover 1x
13272AA082 cover CP Valve R 1x
13293AA051 gskt rover cover 4x
13271AA051 wash rocker cvr 12x
11044AA610 Gskt cylinder Head 2x (these are the current HG's. they are thick as all hell.)
14035AA281 gskt intake manifold 2x
44022AA020 gasket 2x
806732150 oilseal-32x45x8 4x

those are subaru part #'s and i ordered them all from subiegal cause she had the best prices.. about 20% less than my local dealer.

i also replaced my waterpump.
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Old 04-27-2006, 03:29 PM   #14
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An entire engine gasket set for $15? I found the $140 deal that Carlito referred to and figured that was a pretty good deal - the OEM gasket set is closer to $200.

I'm really curious what you got for $15. Hell, a set of the header gaskets costs almost that much!

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ebay baby!

some guy was closing down his shop and set the "buy it now" at $12.**. the auction wasnt on ebay for more than 1 hr.
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Old 04-27-2006, 04:04 PM   #15
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i did get the full gasket kit when i did mine. it comes with 2 headgaskets BUT they are the 2nd revision of the gsakets (3 layer, i do not think they are all metal, i'd have to look), which are still prone to failure. i'd order the 4 layer gaskets seperately.
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