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Old 04-28-2006, 12:03 PM   #1
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Ok, been skimming through the FAQ's and other websites doing research on these cars. In the next couple of months I will be looking to pick up a car that I can use to haul stuff from home depot (buying a house) and drive daily with good gas mileage (and pay cash for, don't need another car payment) . I have always liked Subaru's. When I was young, my mom had a GL wagon. That car was a tank, could go through anything.

Anyway, I am probably going to be looking for a 2.2L Auto 2WD wagon, I am thinking 95 or 96. My soon to be wife will need to be able to drive it, and she has some kind of phobia against driving standards. I am leaning toward 2.2L and 2WD simply for the mileage, and in TX, it is not like we get a lot of weather to have a need for AWD. I will consider AWD, but I think I want to stick with the 2.2L, again for economy. If I can only find AWD, I will more than likely consider something a little newer as well, up to about 99 probably.
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:08 PM   #2
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well just beware of the 2.5 headgasket issues.. but from what i've read teh 2.2 are pretty bombproof. if you can go with the AWD you may get 1mpg more outa the 2wd.. but why own a 2wd subaru.
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:11 PM   #3
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It keeps telling me I have url's in my questions, but I don't, so I am trying a new post instead of editing the last one.

So the questions that I have are:
-Are the 2WD 2.2L very common? I think I have seen one or two for sale between eBay, cars, and autotrader in the last week, but it seems like they were really high mileage, like 175K+.

-Any worries on the auto trannies, if they are higher mileage 100K+?

-Head gaskets a concern on the 2.2L as well as the 2.5L?

-What is the difference in gas mileage between an 2.2L and 2.5L?

-Any other concerns that I should have?

Thanks in advance for any help. I am going to continue searching the forums to try and answer my own questions, but any help in the meantime would be great.
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:20 PM   #4
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http://www.cars101.com/

check that site.. and yeah if you figure 12k miles is normal these days and you're looking at a 12yr old car... I dont trust Auto's... so much cheaper and easier to replace a clutch.

2.2's are pretty bombproof. the HG issue really seemed to be a 2.5l issue.. due to the thinner cyl walls.
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Old 04-28-2006, 12:24 PM   #5
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The lower trim levels were available in the 2.2 Legacy from 90-97 in FWD.

The auto trans pre-97 can be sketchy with over 120k miles. $1500+ to rebuild.

Head gaskets will eventually go out on most 2.2s. It's cheaper and simpler on an SOHC 2.2/2.5 versus a DOHC 2.5 because the head is smaller, and the cam(s) don't need to be removed to get the head off.

Mileage on my modified SOHC 2.5 can be as good as 24 in city driving. The 2.2, running equally well, with a lighter car, can probably touch 28 if driven right, especially with a 5MT FWD. An automatic reduces mileage.

Don't plan on doing many bolt-on modifications to a 2.2. Short of an engine swap, or thousands invested in the 2.2, it's never going to be fast or impressively powerful.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:05 PM   #6
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I was averaging 28-30mpg highway and 26 city with my 2.2 last summer. Switched to a larger tire/wheel combo and have done mods since so my current numbers are off. I need to switch back to my original wheels for summer, so I'll know if the numbers have gone up or down after the mods. I do know my catback netted a 2mpg increase.

Anyway. you'll love the car, especially since the rear seats fold flat for lots of cargo room.
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Old 04-28-2006, 02:30 PM   #7
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Thanks for the replies so far.

I am not real concerned with modding it much, since I have a car that I am already doing that to. Don't need two money vacuums. Just want something that will be reliable, good looking, and functional.

Plays_With_Toys, is yours 2 or 4 wd, and is it auto or manual? Your car sounds like what I would want to go for, that sounds like some good mileage.

I really would prefer a standard, maybe I just need to get her over the stigma of driving one. If I do get an auto, I should probably try to find a lower mileage one to try and avoid some of those headaches.
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Whille Subaru gearboxes aren't as nice as something like a Honda, they're really easy to drive and the stock clutch isn't demanding.

To get a better Auto, get a late 97 or newer, when they took care of some of the issues in the earlier versions.
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Old 04-28-2006, 04:57 PM   #9
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mine is the AWD with a 5 speed manual. My 96 is equipped with a hill holder clutch too which is really nice. Basically, on a grade of 15* or more, if you put the clutch in all the way after holding down the brakes, remove your foot from the brake and the brakes will remain engaged. This gives you time to move your foot to the gas. As soon as you let the clutch out the car will roll back as the brakes disengage, but it makes starting on a hill much nicer.
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Old 04-28-2006, 05:37 PM   #10
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My car has 206K miles and the only thing the tranny's had done is regular fluid changes, so IMO the 97+ 4EAT is pretty damn bulletproof.

I will say though that in the 97 Wagon, the 2.5L is a dog as is. A 2.2L 4EAT would be even slower; I think someone dyno's a 5-speed 2.2L wagon and it made like 80WHP (FWD).
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Old 04-28-2006, 10:49 PM   #12
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My AWD 2.2L 5MT gets 26 mixed, 30 Hwy. That's with 178,000 miles on the engine as well. It's a trooper, the 2.2L is definitely the way to go for longevity. I doubt an automatic makes much difference as far as mileage. The difference between AWD & FWD in mileage isn't worth the tradeoff for FWD, AWD is way more fun

GTWagonphreak- the dyno'd EJ22 was an automatic with the FWD fuse in, making the results very unreliable. The FWD fuse lowers the power ratings. You can generally count on a 40% loss of power to the wheels on an AWD vehicle, and a 15% loss with FWD.
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