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Old 04-29-2006, 03:48 PM   #1
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i own a 02LGT 5 speed.
First...i know how to drive manual. or at least i do...anyways i have some questions regarding my clutch. the clutch works perfectly fine most of the time but SOMETIMES...when i press down on the clutch...theres a squeeky noise...i checked my clutch fluid and its not too much or too little...its at the perfect fluid level.

Second... when i get stuck in traffic and after 20mins being stuck in traffic, theres increase in free play. maybeeee about double or triple of what its supposed to be...but when i let the car sit for 30mins+ everything works fine again.

i was wondering if my clutch is glazed? or theres a air blubble in the clutch line? or any other possibilities?

if anyone has any ideas, please help me.

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Old 04-29-2006, 08:59 PM   #2
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the squeaking is probably just coming from the slave cylinder or the pedal itself. due to not being greased from time to time. as for the freeplay. you have me stumped for the moment. do you sit in traffic holding the clutch in? or do you put the trans in neutral and let the clutch out?
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Old 04-29-2006, 11:57 PM   #3
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i leave it in neutral and pop the clutch out. I only step on clutch when i need to shift...i heard holding the clutch down all the time is not good?

is there a thread on the forum about greasing that part? i need help. I dont know where its located and i dont even know how it looks like...if anyone knows help meeeee... thanks.
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Old 04-30-2006, 01:29 PM   #4
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You might want to get any air out of the line, that could be suspect. Other than that I'm not sure what it could be.

As for greasing the parts, yoiu should try the tranny and driveline forum.


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Old 04-30-2006, 01:39 PM   #5
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(squeak is just in need of a little grease, which i'm too lazy to do.) otherwise:

my clutch did the same thing in NC.

moved by the ocean here in RI and it quit????????

i had COMPLETELY flushed and bled the lines too. no benefit. i understand it's the clutch master being a bastar'

i'm not gonna pay that till it's dead
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Old 04-30-2006, 02:57 PM   #6
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The play sounds like a bad master or slave cylinder seal. This can only be resolved by repairing or replacing the faulty unit. The squeak may be related to the faulty part, or might be something as simple as the pedal assembly. Try to determine if the sound is coming from inside or outside of the cabin.
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Old 04-30-2006, 04:39 PM   #7
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i mentioned slave and the guys at work all said the master....

we'll see what happens when i head to NC in a few weeks.
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Old 05-01-2006, 01:06 PM   #8
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thanks guys.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:05 AM   #9
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i mentioned slave and the guys at work all said the master....

we'll see what happens when i head to NC in a few weeks.

well, they don't know then. Mine just started acting up, and someone pulled up a tech service bulletin. It is the slave cylinder (subaru calls it the operating cylinder). Also, the clutch hose gets replaced. It is all located on the top of the trans, under the air filter box.

It takes about 30 minutes to replace everything and was REAL easy to do (though I tightened my banjo bolt too tight and broke it. I had to wait for a new one to be shipped, grrrrrrr). It is only a few bolts total and then a fluid bleed. no problem at all and now my clutch system feels brand new, like it is straight off the lot...
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:08 AM   #10
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i own a 02LGT 5 speed.
... when i get stuck in traffic and after 20mins being stuck in traffic, theres increase in free play. maybeeee about double or triple of what its supposed to be...but when i let the car sit for 30mins+ everything works fine again...

I think the bad slave cylinder is making it feel like you have more play, though the actual play stays the same. Mine would act up after driving, when things got hotter under the hood. I think the part would sieze up more when it got heat soaked. Replace the operating cylinder, hose and two crush washers, you'll be happy you did.
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Old 05-30-2006, 10:24 PM   #11
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MY Clutch just went to the floor sunday. It did work to some extent, but only when all the way to the floor, then when i let go, there seemed like no power return(hydrolic pressure). I could get it in gear, but barely. anyone else have a problem with this. I am looking into replacing the slave and master clutch cylinder. from what i have read this seems pretty straight foward. Anyone have any hints or ideas for me?
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:22 AM   #12
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There is no problem doing the slave, just don't over-tighten the banjo bolt. Everything is so easy your grandma could do it. I even bled the line myself, as I could move the clutch fork back and forth and work the bleed valve all from the same spot. Real easy to do (assuming you don't have some mega-heavy sports clutch that you can't move with your hand at the fork)... I haven't done a master cyl yet, so I can't say how involved it is.
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Old 05-31-2006, 02:49 AM   #13
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Pfft.. I'm about a month late on that reply. And I didn't finish reading before I posted, so I posted the same thing as above. So now I'm removing it.
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Old 05-31-2006, 06:31 AM   #14
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How did you know if it was the master or slave? I just know my clutch has no hydrolic pressure and it sounds like the correct deduction on what to fix. my other problem is that when i send my parts request the subaruparts.com the came back with only one cylinder not two... do all our cars(99 in particular) have master and slave?

any and all help would be appreciated.... of all car stuff i can handle, brakes and clutch are not an area i have dabbled in much.
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Old 05-31-2006, 08:53 PM   #15
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Its the slave.. There is a Subaru bulletin on it
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Old 06-01-2006, 06:30 AM   #16
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Its the slave.. There is a Subaru bulletin on it
Thanks... any chance you or anyone can find a part number for that...i have been looking, and i did just order what i think is the master, but i can not find a number for the slave.
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Old 06-01-2006, 01:10 PM   #17
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i gotta replace it, it's doing it again
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Old 06-01-2006, 02:45 PM   #18
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If you look at the slave when you pull it off, it gts a sludge build-up on the piston. I think this contributes to the problem. I think the part numbers are in the tsb, which was linked to a thread around here somewhere. I just walked into my dealership with a print-off of the tsb. You need at least three things (operating cyl and two crush washers - my thought is that the hose is not a MUST to replace unless it is showing cracks or wear)...
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:04 PM   #19
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i wonder how much a stainless line would be?
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:11 PM   #20
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What fluid are you running? Might try dot 5 if you have 3 in there.
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Old 06-01-2006, 03:28 PM   #21
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In reference to finding a part number, I recommend e-mailing Jamie @ subarugenuineparts. Very helpful, good prices, fast shipping
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