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Old 05-01-2006, 03:10 AM   #1
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Default Imported WRX wagon from USA (with costs)

Well, got it back in Calgary tonight. The Trans-Canada was clear and traffic was light (had worries about paint chips before I get a chance to add 3M film).
First impression...plenty of low end torque...climbed out of Golden in 5th gear at ~2300RPM.
A couple of pics...



Another member had asked about a cost breakdown. Keep in mind that the US-spec WRX is not exactly the same as the Canadian version. Heated seats and roof cross bars are the ones that I know of. While these may be of value to some, they cannot be de-optioned for cost savings...We have heated seats in our Passat...I think I used them twice in 5.5 years. Anyways, here it is. The Calgary purchase price include a pretty hefty discount. Someone posted here that they paid $37200 OTD so I worked it "backwards". The Canadian dollar has gone up a bit since I converted my money (1.148 vs 1.116)
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Old 05-01-2006, 03:30 AM   #2
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Get savings nice write up not do a write up of the process!
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Old 05-01-2006, 11:20 AM   #3
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Cdn dealers... you reading this? I hope so.
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Old 05-01-2006, 01:46 PM   #4
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Way to go...Congratulations!!!! Working on a LGT Spec B...crossed my fingers!!yup lots of savings!!

Dealerships opened your EYES!!
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Old 05-01-2006, 02:00 PM   #5
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Sweet,
I think that I might have to do that when I'm ready for something new . Wonder what kind of savings we could get bringing up an STI..

The car looks great and congrats on the great deal.
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Old 05-01-2006, 02:01 PM   #6
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This is a process I am following with Carter Subaru

http://legacygt.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24153

hope that helps Vincent-H
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Old 05-01-2006, 06:57 PM   #7
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Sweet,
I think that I might have to do that when I'm ready for something new . Wonder what kind of savings we could get bringing up an STI..

The car looks great and congrats on the great deal.
I am buying an 06 STi from Carter Subaru in Seattle. I have unfortunately already bought my USD at an exchange of 1.1445 instead of the 1.11xx it is at currently. This means that I cost myself another $600 for jumping the gun.

Anyway, the savings at my exchange rate for the STi comes out to about $12,000. I will be able to detail this further when I actually cross the border and pay the duty/GST based on that day's exchange rate. (I was quoted $54,000 for a Canadian STi out the door, no options). I did not try to bargain lower than this, but I doubt they can match the end cost for me to bring one in from the US. The US STi will cost me about $42,000 after the excise tax/duty/GST including a few options (I did not really care for these, but the price was right).

From what I can tell, the US model does without the rear seat pass thru, heated front seats or the heated side mirrors. I can live without km/h as the main speedo increments, and the ambient temperature read in Fahrenheit.
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Old 05-01-2006, 07:14 PM   #8
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Way to go...Congratulations!!!! Working on a LGT Spec B...crossed my fingers!!yup lots of savings!!

Dealerships opened your EYES!!

can you actaully "bring" the spec b over here. how would the insurance companies label it? legacy gt? i was looking at one of these. keep me posted. thanks
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:44 AM   #9
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Surfer tech ,

As a LGT. There are a couple in BC already with CDN plates.
It is worth it..beautiful beast and lots of upgrade now...

Cheers
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:54 AM   #10
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Just curious if any financing was involved. If so, how do they deal with the cross border issues.


Considering trading my LGT wagon for a '07 specB if the delivered product is what I'm hoping it will be...
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Old 05-02-2006, 06:48 AM   #11
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Nice write up, very interesting.
I would also like to know if you went through a bank and if so any problems with them borrowing you money to buy in the US.
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:48 AM   #12
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I just recently brought in a 2006 WRX Ltd wagon also. The purchase/export/import procedure has been easier than I thought so far. I got the provincial inspection and plates done on Sunday. Only thing left is waiting for the RIV Form 2 and Federal inspection.

I didn't finance, but I have heard of a local dealer at Crowfoot Ford who will finance or lease most makes of US vehicles.
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Old 05-02-2006, 10:46 AM   #13
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Here's an outline of the procedure I went through:

1) Negotiate price and order car with deposit on CC

2)Car arrives at dealer (probably Carter, they know the drill)

3) Book your flight

4)Dealer faxes you 3 sheets of paper: front of MSO, back of MSO and Purchase Order.

5)Wire the balance of money to dealer.

6)Fax the 3 sheets of paper to US Customs 406 432-5528 for export through Sweetgrass Montana. Blaine Wa. will have a different fax number -phone 360 332-6318 to get it.

7) Phone 406 432-5522 the next day to confirm receipt of fax. They also confirmed it was cleared for export, and instructed me to tell the US customs officer the "worksheet date" to make it easier to find on their end At this point they are expecting you at that border crossing, so best to stick with that travel plan.

8) Using the documents and VIN from step 4, buy insurance

9)Purchase a 7 day transit pass from any licence agency.

10) Fly down, with documents in hand to pick up your car. You will need 2 pieces of photo ID (passport and drivers licence) to confirm you don't live in Washington state. Also expect to sign some paperwork requiring the dealer to act on your behalf in event of some title issue (quite unlikely with a new vehicle) You will also receive the original of the MSO and Purchase Order, along with numerous other papers. Dealer will inform SoA the car is sold. They had also pre-purchased for me a USA transit pass, good for 3 days

11) Drive to your chosen port of exit. Show your paperwork. US customs will compare your title/MSO to the prefaxed documentation and stamp your papers as exported.

12) Drive up to Canada Customs. Declare your intent to import, they'll instruct you where to park, and collect duty, GST, RIV fee, AC tax etc. Bear in mind that most of these are built in to the price at a Canadian dealer, but now you are paying duty and GST on a much smaller base price. They are happy to take CC or debit. They will have you fill out a RIV Form 1 and leave you with two copies

I didn't watch them inspect the vehicle, but the officer reported it was hard to find the safety sticker. I did have the dealer email photos of it, but should have shown the photos to the officer to save 15 minutes of searching for it

13) Drive home. You still need to get a SoA recall clearance letter, two inspections and plates.

14) Fax the same 3 sheets of paper to SoA in order to get a recall clearance letter. Phone 1-800-SUBARU3 and get a case number, and a fax number. Some people supposedly have been able to perform this step off the original dealer -faxed documents, and done this a week sooner. No need to do it sooner as you still have to wait for the RIV form 2 as well as the SoA recall clearance letter for the federal inspection. In my case I faxed the original MSO/title and purchase order as they were more legible than the fax I received from the dealer. The recall clearance letter showed up in the mail a few days later.

15) I got tired of waiting for the Form 2, so I bought another transit pass and Request for Inspection, and got the provincial inspection done at Canadian Tire, and then got my plates.

16) Last step, which could easily be combined with step 15, is to get the federal inspection done with all of RIV Form2, SoA Recall Clearance letter and MSO/title, purchase order etc in hand.
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Old 05-02-2006, 11:12 AM   #14
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Does anyone have first hand knowledge of getting a Spec B into the country?

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Old 05-02-2006, 11:48 AM   #15
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Just curious if any financing was involved. If so, how do they deal with the cross border issues.


Considering trading my LGT wagon for a '07 specB if the delivered product is what I'm hoping it will be...
I paid for it in cash. If I were to finance it I would probably use a secured line of credit because that would be the lowest rate (Prime). With a Line-of-Credit, the bank doesn't care what you do with the money or where you spend it, only that you take you sweet time paying it back while they collect interest
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:00 PM   #16
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Here's an outline of the procedure I went through:

1) Negotiate price and order car with deposit on CC

2)Car arrives at dealer (probably Carter, they know the drill)

3) Book your flight

4)Dealer faxes you 3 sheets of paper: front of MSO, back of MSO and Purchase Order.

5)Wire the balance of money to dealer.

6)Fax the 3 sheets of paper to US Customs 406 432-5528 for export through Sweetgrass Montana. Blaine Wa. will have a different fax number -phone 360 332-6318 to get it.

7) Phone 406 432-5522 the next day to confirm receipt of fax. They also confirmed it was cleared for export, and instructed me to tell the US customs officer the "worksheet date" to make it easier to find on their end At this point they are expecting you at that border crossing, so best to stick with that travel plan.

8) Using the documents and VIN from step 4, buy insurance

9)Purchase a 7 day transit pass from any licence agency.

10) Fly down, with documents in hand to pick up your car. You will need 2 pieces of photo ID (passport and drivers licence) to confirm you don't live in Washington state. Also expect to sign some paperwork requiring the dealer to act on your behalf in event of some title issue (quite unlikely with a new vehicle) You will also receive the original of the MSO and Purchase Order, along with numerous other papers. Dealer will inform SoA the car is sold. They had also pre-purchased for me a USA transit pass, good for 3 days

11) Drive to your chosen port of exit. Show your paperwork. US customs will compare your title/MSO to the prefaxed documentation and stamp your papers as exported.

12) Drive up to Canada Customs. Declare your intent to import, they'll instruct you where to park, and collect duty, GST, RIV fee, AC tax etc. Bear in mind that most of these are built in to the price at a Canadian dealer, but now you are paying duty and GST on a much smaller base price. They are happy to take CC or debit. They will have you fill out a RIV Form 1 and leave you with two copies

I didn't watch them inspect the vehicle, but the officer reported it was hard to find the safety sticker. I did have the dealer email photos of it, but should have shown the photos to the officer to save 15 minutes of searching for it

13) Drive home. You still need to get a SoA recall clearance letter, two inspections and plates.

14) Fax the same 3 sheets of paper to SoA in order to get a recall clearance letter. Phone 1-800-SUBARU3 and get a case number, and a fax number. Some people supposedly have been able to perform this step off the original dealer -faxed documents, and done this a week sooner. No need to do it sooner as you still have to wait for the RIV form 2 as well as the SoA recall clearance letter for the federal inspection. In my case I faxed the original MSO/title and purchase order as they were more legible than the fax I received from the dealer. The recall clearance letter showed up in the mail a few days later.

15) I got tired of waiting for the Form 2, so I bought another transit pass and Request for Inspection, and got the provincial inspection done at Canadian Tire, and then got my plates.

16) Last step, which could easily be combined with step 15, is to get the federal inspection done with all of RIV Form2, SoA Recall Clearance letter and MSO/title, purchase order etc in hand.
That pretty much covers it. I crossed in Blaine, Washington and the whole process took less than 30 minutes. The agent didn't even look at the car

The recall clearance letter can be from the selling dealership (according to RIV). That is what I have...will see if they give me any hassle later.

I already had plates from my last car so I used that to get the car home...didn't buy any transit permit (US or Cdn).

My wife works at the Alberta Registry and said that new cars don't require Provincial Inspections to be registered....
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Old 05-02-2006, 02:59 PM   #17
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That pretty much covers it. I crossed in Blaine, Washington and the whole process took less than 30 minutes. The agent didn't even look at the car

The recall clearance letter can be from the selling dealership (according to RIV). That is what I have...will see if they give me any hassle later.

I already had plates from my last car so I used that to get the car home...didn't buy any transit permit (US or Cdn).

My wife works at the Alberta Registry and said that new cars don't require Provincial Inspections to be registered....

I get the impression that while RIV etc have a procedure outlined, things can vary a bit depending on what dealer, customs officer, Alberta Registry Agent, etc, you actually deal with.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:13 PM   #18
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Did you drive with the temporary 3-day Washington plates while in the US, then change over to the Alberta 7-day temporary plates when you crossed the border? I am a bit hazy on this, since I am not sure I need the 3 day temporary permit from Washington.
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Old 05-02-2006, 09:45 PM   #19
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Did you drive with the temporary 3-day Washington plates while in the US, then change over to the Alberta 7-day temporary plates when you crossed the border? I am a bit hazy on this, since I am not sure I need the 3 day temporary permit from Washington.

That's what I did. You probably do need the Wa. 3 day permit. When I picked up the car, the dealer had already purchased and attached the permit for me, onto the rear window. The Alberta permit goes on the front window.

But I suppose you could probably just put your old Ab. plates on the new car instead of the 7 day permit, for the Canadian part of the trip.
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Old 05-15-2006, 01:56 AM   #20
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I am looking to get an STi from the states now instead of buying a used '04 or '05. How come I see lots of reference to Carter Subaru in Seattle by members in Alberta? I checked the subaru website and Great Falls and other places in Montana have Subaru dealers...closer to Calgary and Edmonton no? Or is Carter prefered due to their pricing?
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Old 05-15-2006, 03:19 AM   #21
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It appears that Carter has sold several Subarus to Canadians for importation and know the process and procedures better than most. I think that is why they seem to be preferred.
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Old 05-15-2006, 08:14 AM   #22
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Montana is closer, and I know of people who have bought there. But Seattle is a quick approx $150 flight, whereas Montana requires a 6 hour from Calgary road trip with a buddy, then convoy two vehicles back.
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Old 05-15-2006, 03:55 PM   #23
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SEND that Spreadsheet to Subaru of Canada.
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Old 05-15-2006, 04:01 PM   #24
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I wonder if SOC will adjust pricing or if somewhere along the way, SOA will get the mandate not to sell to Canadians...
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Old 05-15-2006, 07:27 PM   #25
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I wonder if SOC will adjust pricing or if somewhere along the way, SOA will get the mandate not to sell to Canadians...
I doubt it... only a very very small percentage of Canadians buying Subarus will do so from the states. The dent in Canadian sales won't be significant, plus Canadian dealers will still get the warranty and service revenue. There may be an adjustment in prices to reflect our gaining dollar though.

I'm cheap and like road trips... that's why I'll be getting my STi from the US (after July when the gst drops the whopping 1% though )
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