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Old 05-01-2006, 02:28 PM   #1
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other than by using a utec do any of you guys know of an alternative way to get some launch control that i could run with my ecutek flash?
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Old 05-01-2006, 09:06 PM   #2
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Yes, get a Hydra...
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Old 05-04-2006, 02:30 PM   #3
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haha ok other then buying a whole different engine managment system.
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Old 05-04-2006, 05:27 PM   #4
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I thought for some cars Ecutek had a LC feature, but unfortunately the only way to make it happen on a reflash is for them to decompile and rewrite a lot of code. That's a lot more complex that just finding the maps and changing values. New logic code must actually be written and crammed into the limited space of the ROM without screwing anything else up.

I think there may be some aftermarket ignition systems that offer a two-step, but that might be just as bad as buying a UTEC or Hydra after it is all said and done. And that only gives you spark cut, not injector cut, which is arguably worse on your car.
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Old 05-11-2006, 07:52 PM   #5
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I do not believe it is available, but I would confirm with EcuTeK about that.

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Old 05-12-2006, 01:39 PM   #6
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thanks for the input here





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Old 05-16-2006, 05:54 PM   #7
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i rememebr hearing somthing about LC for ecutek'd evos but not subarus
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Old 05-22-2006, 05:35 PM   #8
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I thought for some cars Ecutek had a LC feature, but unfortunately the only way to make it happen on a reflash is for them to decompile and rewrite a lot of code. That's a lot more complex that just finding the maps and changing values. New logic code must actually be written and crammed into the limited space of the ROM without screwing anything else up.

I think there may be some aftermarket ignition systems that offer a two-step, but that might be just as bad as buying a UTEC or Hydra after it is all said and done. And that only gives you spark cut, not injector cut, which is arguably worse on your car.
There is another option left for STi owners...
Most Ecu's have a "no speed signal rev limiter", this safety feature is set to 6000 rpm on EUDM STi.
Using a push switch to open the speed signal circuit to Ecu & desactivating the relevant DTC, you get a nice "manual" assistance for launch until you release the switch.

Of course, this cannot be compared to the tek launch control, using a speed based rev limiter offset... but...
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There is no stationary rev limiter in the USDM STI unfortunately. You can run it right up to 7k sitting still out of gear.
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Old 05-23-2006, 06:52 PM   #10
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There is no stationary rev limiter in the USDM STI unfortunately. You can run it right up to 7k sitting still out of gear.

yep it will just improve my launching skills till some day either ecutek will get on the ball with map switching / launch control, or I upgrade to a diff EM solution.
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Old 05-23-2006, 10:00 PM   #11
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You can do anti lag with Ecutek. Contact Ben at Ecutek for details. Ecutek put in specific settings into Rom files to adjust for this purpose.

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Old 05-23-2006, 10:04 PM   #12
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ECUTek offer map switching and launch control for the stock ecu. Contact them.
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Old 05-26-2006, 05:41 PM   #13
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There is no stationary rev limiter in the USDM STI unfortunately. You can run it right up to 7k sitting still out of gear.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not talking about "zero speed rev limiter" (or what ever speed you set to unleash the rev limiter offset like Ecutek does into the code), I'm talking about "no speed signal", no signal at all into the Ecu.

All STi Ecu's since 2001 have this feature... I guess it was designed to avoid speed signal wire cutting on 180 kph-limited JDM ecu's.
Using the method I described above with a push to open switch located on the wheel (opening speed signal circuit) gives nice result.
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That also kills the AVCS.

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Old 05-30-2006, 05:38 PM   #15
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ECUTek offer map switching and launch control for the stock ecu. Contact them.

for the newer model vehicles? there may be some launch control feature but i can say almost w/o a doubt that there is not a map switching control, atleast at the customers end, the maps have to be loaded in from some one with a tuner license as far as i know.
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Old 05-31-2006, 12:11 PM   #16
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there is a map switching feature with the 2.0L non DBW ecus
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You can do anti lag with Ecutek. Contact Ben at Ecutek for details. Ecutek put in specific settings into Rom files to adjust for this purpose.

Clark
So I am to understand that you can do launch control and anti-lag with ECUtek. BUT, can you somehow access the ECU using other software to disable it for daily driving? Or, am I looking at a standalone for this functionality?
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