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Old 05-02-2006, 11:44 AM   #1
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Default hella FF1000 - Kartboy vs Hella bracket?

So, I've searched on the FF1000 lights, and I want to replace my stock foglights in my 03 with these. I know Kartboy sells adaptors, but Hella also sells a WRX specific mounting bracket. Does anyone know which one is better? From searching it looks like there have been some problems with the Hella bracket.
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Old 05-02-2006, 12:25 PM   #2
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I don't know anything about the kartboy bracket, but I've got a pair on mine with the hella brackets and mounting them was a piece of cake. Getting them aimed properly was a bit labor intensive, but I've been driving around with them for several months now and they haven't moved, so I'm happy.
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Old 05-02-2006, 01:44 PM   #3
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That's good to know. I don't mind spending the time to get them aimed correctly. I really dislike getting a part that's supposed to fit perfectly and having to spend time to bend it one way or another.
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Old 05-02-2006, 08:01 PM   #4
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Having seen both, i like the kartboy ones better, they are made out of a thicker material and seem way more beefy. no chance of a shaking light.

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Old 05-04-2006, 11:13 AM   #5
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Having seen both, i like the kartboy ones better, they are made out of a thicker material and seem way more beefy. no chance of a shaking light.

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...then there must be at least 2 different Hella brackets.......the Hella brackets that I had were STOUT.....as in I couldn't bend them if I stood on 'em and bounced(~225 at that time)----had a hellova time tryin to bend 'em a bit to get the aim right.....stout, no doubt.

the fit was as stock
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:47 AM   #6
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Yea, I had to bend mine just a little bit to get the lights pointed down enough and I had to use an 18" crescent wrench, jumpin on them wouldn't do it. I've had absolutely no shake too, so I'd say the hella brackets I have are plenty stout.
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:52 AM   #7
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...then there must be at least 2 different Hella brackets.......the Hella brackets that I had were STOUT.....as in I couldn't bend them if I stood on 'em and bounced(~225 at that time)----had a hellova time tryin to bend 'em a bit to get the aim right.....stout, no doubt.

the fit was as stock
hmm, i wonder if they came out with a new kit. as the first ones i got, were made out of sheet metal. very thin and i could bend with my fingers.

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Old 05-04-2006, 01:03 PM   #8
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Since I'm buying new, I think I'd be getting the more stout bracket. I think I'll go with the Hella bracket then. Any advice on install or aiming these beasts?
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Old 05-04-2006, 01:17 PM   #9
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A guy I talked to after I put mine on suggested that it might be easier to pull off the bumper skin so you can get at the tightening screws on the underside of the light while aiming them. This would certainly make the aiming process go quicker, but I don't know how much trouble it is to pull off the bumper skin. As for wiring, I used the stock foglight switch going to the hella relay, with the power for the switch coming from one of the wires running to it that has voltage as long as the running lights, low beams or high beams are on. That way I can run the hellas independently of the headlights but I don't have to worry about leaving them on when I turn off the car.
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+1 for hella FF1000's you wont be disappointed!
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Old 05-06-2006, 02:51 PM   #11
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I have both brackets and about a years experience playing around with both of them. I consider the Kartboy to be a considerably better bracket. The problem with the Hella isn't quality or stoutness either. You can't easily bend mine with your hands, infact, I would love to see someone bend them with their finger. However, they are poorly designed for good aiming. They place the light too far back into the area, causing the light to sit against the plastic around it. It makes it practicly impossible to aim correctly. Some people found luck bending it, using washers, etc. I never got them aimed the way I wanted. I switched to the Kartboy brackets and had no problems aiming them. The only problem now is that, because they dont sit so far back, they do shake a little, but they dont move or go anywhere, so I will live with that.

As for attempting to aim them with the bumper skin off. How? Unless I missed something there is no way to mount those lights with the skin off and then put it back on with the lights still in place. The black plastic "cups" that the lights sit in is part of the bumper skin, and there is no way that is going to fit over the fog lights, they are too large. I believe you have to aim them the way everyone else has, its really not that big a chore.
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Old 05-06-2006, 05:10 PM   #12
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I agree, not that bad to aim. Took a few pictures showning height . distance etc after alignment. Makes it a no brainer to reset the alignment if they move. I used the Hella brackets, not perfect but acceptable.
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the bracket for the 500 and the ff1000 are different.
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