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Old 05-04-2006, 03:48 AM   #1
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Hey guys, im looking for a map for these mods: big tmic, tuboxs uppie, turboxs race dp, catless turbo back, utec, 93 oct.... i have the basic map now and im knocking between 4500 to 4800 rpm in 3rd or 4th gear.... any one have a better tune for me? let me know
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Old 05-04-2006, 09:59 AM   #2
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When you say "basic map" I assume you meant the TurboXS Stage 3 base map, since that's where you are.

If you've knocking, go in and add some fuel and/or reduce timing in the cells around where you're knocking.
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:52 AM   #3
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When you say "basic map" I assume you meant the TurboXS Stage 3 base map, since that's where you are.

If you've knocking, go in and add some fuel and/or reduce timing in the cells around where you're knocking.
thats the thing im not so sure on how to do that and how much to add, and yes its the turboxs stage 3 base map... i have the knock reports if u can take a look at them?
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:52 AM   #4
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Get new spark plugs!
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Old 05-04-2006, 11:54 AM   #5
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yeah im going to do that as well, i have 22,000 miles haven't done them yet... any specific ones that are the best?
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:26 PM   #6
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Yes, post up your logs, that will help.
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Old 05-04-2006, 12:44 PM   #7
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here are all my recent knocks

6410 +11.5 4.1 95 60 00 11.5 +26.6 99.6 +23.2 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6447 +11.5 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +26.4 98.3 +23.9 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6613 +10.6 4.1 95 50 00 11.5 +26.8 97.3 +24.0 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6497 +10.4 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +27.3 98.6 +23.8 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6561 +10.4 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +27.2 98.6 +23.7 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6666 +10.8 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +28.0 98.1 +23.9 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6613 +8.6 2.1 0 40 00 11.5 +10.9 38.3 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 2.4 11.50
6218 +3.1 2.7 2 10 00 11.5 +41.0 45.4 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 3.4 11.50
4572 +1.9 3.9 95 10 01 11.5 +17.6 78.3 +14.5 -0.9 375.00 3.9 11.50

2nd


6410 +11.5 4.1 95 60 00 11.5 +26.6 99.6 +23.2 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6447 +11.5 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +26.4 98.3 +23.9 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6613 +10.6 4.1 95 50 00 11.5 +26.8 97.3 +24.0 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6497 +10.4 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +27.3 98.6 +23.8 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6561 +10.4 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +27.2 98.6 +23.7 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6666 +10.8 4.1 94 60 00 11.5 +28.0 98.1 +23.9 -0.1 375.00 4.1 11.50
6613 +8.6 2.1 0 40 00 11.5 +10.9 38.3 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 2.4 11.50
6218 +3.1 2.7 2 10 00 11.5 +41.0 45.4 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 3.4 11.50
4572 +1.9 3.9 95 10 01 11.5 +17.6 78.3 +14.5 -0.9 375.00 3.9 11.50

3rd

6253 +11.5 4.1 79 60 00 12.0 +23.0 97.9 +23.2 -0.1 347.50 4.2 12.00
6289 +11.5 4.1 79 60 00 12.0 +24.4 1.0 +23.2 -0.1 347.50 4.1 12.00
6313 +11.3 4.1 81 60 00 12.0 +24.5 98.4 +23.5 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6349 +10.8 4.2 81 50 00 12.0 +24.9 1.0 +24.0 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6337 +10.8 4.2 81 50 00 12.0 +25.2 99.7 +24.0 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6523 +11.0 4.2 81 60 00 12.0 +25.3 1.0 +23.9 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6510 +10.8 4.1 81 60 00 12.0 +25.4 1.0 +23.9 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6587 +10.4 4.2 81 60 00 12.0 +25.7 1.0 +22.0 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6574 +10.2 4.1 71 60 01 12.0 +26.1 1.0 +15.2 -0.1 327.50 4.1 12.00

4th

6680 +10.0 4.1 76 60 00 12.0 +28.0 74.2 +23.9 -0.1 340.00 3.0 12.00
6510 +8.4 2.8 0 40 00 12.0 +10.6 39.2 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 3.1 12.00
6385 +8.4 2.8 0 40 00 12.0 +11.1 22.3 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 2.0 12.00
6265 +6.2 2.5 0 20 00 12.0 +10.8 34.4 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 2.8 12.00
6325 +6.2 2.5 0 20 00 12.0 +10.8 25.3 ECU. -1.6 ECU. 2.3 12.00
6127 +3.7 2.4 0 10 00 12.0 +41.5 11.8 ECU. -1.7 ECU. 3.2 12.00
6127 +3.7 2.4 0 10 00 12.0 +39.5 52.4 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 3.5 12.00
6289 +3.7 2.4 0 10 00 12.3 +40.3 65.9 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 3.7 12.30
6361 +3.3 3.7 74 10 02 12.3 +38.6 75.9 +21.3 -1.5 335.00 3.9 12.30

5th

6253 +11.5 4.1 79 60 00 12.0 +23.0 97.9 +23.2 -0.1 347.50 4.2 12.00
6289 +11.5 4.1 79 60 00 12.0 +24.4 1.0 +23.2 -0.1 347.50 4.1 12.00
6313 +11.3 4.1 81 60 00 12.0 +24.5 98.4 +23.5 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6349 +10.8 4.2 81 50 00 12.0 +24.9 1.0 +24.0 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6337 +10.8 4.2 81 50 00 12.0 +25.2 99.7 +24.0 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6523 +11.0 4.2 81 60 00 12.0 +25.3 1.0 +23.9 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6510 +10.8 4.1 81 60 00 12.0 +25.4 1.0 +23.9 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6587 +10.4 4.2 81 60 00 12.0 +25.7 1.0 +22.0 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6574 +10.2 4.1 71 60 01 12.0 +26.1 1.0 +15.2 -0.1 327.50 4.1 12.00


6th

6253 +11.5 4.1 79 60 00 12.0 +23.0 97.9 +23.2 -0.1 347.50 4.2 12.00
6289 +11.5 4.1 79 60 00 12.0 +24.4 1.0 +23.2 -0.1 347.50 4.1 12.00
6313 +11.3 4.1 81 60 00 12.0 +24.5 98.4 +23.5 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6349 +10.8 4.2 81 50 00 12.0 +24.9 1.0 +24.0 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6337 +10.8 4.2 81 50 00 12.0 +25.2 99.7 +24.0 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6523 +11.0 4.2 81 60 00 12.0 +25.3 1.0 +23.9 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6510 +10.8 4.1 81 60 00 12.0 +25.4 1.0 +23.9 -0.1 352.50 4.1 12.00
6587 +10.4 4.2 81 60 00 12.0 +25.7 1.0 +22.0 -0.1 352.50 4.2 12.00
6574 +10.2 4.1 71 60 01 12.0 +26.1 1.0 +15.2 -0.1 327.50 4.1 12.00

and the last

6680 +10.0 4.1 76 60 00 12.0 +28.0 74.2 +23.9 -0.1 340.00 3.0 12.00
6510 +8.4 2.8 0 40 00 12.0 +10.6 39.2 ECU. +0.2 ECU. 3.1 12.00
6385 +8.4 2.8 0 40 00 12.0 +11.1 22.3 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 2.0 12.00
6265 +6.2 2.5 0 20 00 12.0 +10.8 34.4 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 2.8 12.00
6325 +6.2 2.5 0 20 00 12.0 +10.8 25.3 ECU. -1.6 ECU. 2.3 12.00
6127 +3.7 2.4 0 10 00 12.0 +41.5 11.8 ECU. -1.7 ECU. 3.2 12.00
6127 +3.7 2.4 0 10 00 12.0 +39.5 52.4 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 3.5 12.00
6289 +3.7 2.4 0 10 00 12.3 +40.3 65.9 ECU. -1.5 ECU. 3.7 12.30
6361 +3.3 3.7 74 10 02 12.3 +38.6 75.9 +21.3 -1.5 335.00 3.9 12.30

let me know if that helps... this came from UTI logger dont know if that makes a diff or not...
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Old 05-04-2006, 04:15 PM   #8
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Use the code tags when you post logs. You need a wideband to tune fuel. You pretty much should have a wideband if you have a UTEC. I suggest this regardless.

Several of the knocks look like they occured right after a shift. I suggest putting in timing numbers into your 0% column from 4250rpm to 4750 and up. Just copying your 10% column over, maybe add 1-3 degrees. It really doesn't affect drivability much as long as you do it only at higher RPM. Basically you're jumping from +35 to +40 timing to +20-ish as you change between ECU and UTEC control, and that tends to cause 1 or 2 counts for many people. I really think this is something the OTS maps should do.

The log before "5th" looks like you may want to back timing off slightly in that RPM and load area. It could also be a lean spot, but again, without a wideband you don't know. Pick up an LM-1 or UEGO and a program called "MPS Logger", or get the TXS Tuner WB02.
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