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Old 05-05-2006, 12:51 AM   #1
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Ok, you may have noticed I'm selling a few bits off my Legacy. I plan to sell the 98, and basically remove myself from all debt for the time being.

I have been giving some thought though, to keeping the EJ20 engine I have. It's a JDM 91 turbo EJ20. My thoughts(as of today, anyways), are to possibly, within a year or so, get another, cheaper Legacy.

I live in IL, and they do sniffer for pre96, and an OBD2 scan on all 96+ cars for emmisions. Obviously, the 91 computer wouldn't pass an OBD2 scan.

So, I might go for a pre 96 car later on, and turn it into a beast. But if you were in my shoes, what year would you get? And for what reason?

Obviously, I really wouldn't even need a car with a working engine, so that's not a relevant point here. But if I wanted a weekend cruiser, that could eat a stock WRX for breakfast, what would I go for?

Any and all comments are welcome, as I'm trying to figure out what I'm going to do with this stuff right now. I don't think it would be terribly easy to sell this engine for what I'd like to get for it right now.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:37 AM   #2
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Default Porsche 914 + EJ motors = !

Not to steer away from the great Scooby-do bodies but Im in love with this:

http://www.turbo914.com/

Im sure with its handling and power/weight ratio. . it could kill just about anything. Thought it is RWD.....
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:42 AM   #3
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The 914 cars have rust issues. It is hard to find a 914 that is worthy of a project.

The emissions thing is a problem. If I chose another car for a project, it would be a 2 door RS swap (if I didn't have kids).

I would love to make a 22b replica.
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Old 05-05-2006, 01:50 AM   #4
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Default depends!

Depends where you live. MI doesnt require smog testing . . so its all good over here. Clean 914s are a bit harder to come by but they are out there...

I agree though, a clean 22b or 555 would rock. I love the two doors...
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Old 05-05-2006, 02:59 AM   #5
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So, I might go for a pre 96 car later on, and turn it into a beast.
95 for some cars, the 95 Legacy is obd II, but a 95 imp is obd I.
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Old 05-05-2006, 08:00 AM   #6
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Yeah, the years weren't uniform, you have to watch that.
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Old 05-05-2006, 10:50 AM   #7
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That part doesn't matter. IL does an OBD2 scan on all 96+ cars, and sniffer for pre96 cars. So even if it had an OBD2 computer, I could remove it for a pre96 vehicle.
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:02 AM   #8
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could go with a '95 L, total sleeper
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:04 AM   #9
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Why not build an engine that can meet emissions standards? Not to rain on the parade here, but emissions laws are in place for a reason.

Good luck with your hunt
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Old 05-05-2006, 11:12 AM   #10
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I never said I was building an engine that wasn't going to meet emissions standards. The fact of the matter is, 96+ is an OBD2 scan ONLY. You can have the cleanest engine in the world, but if you don't have an OBD2 computer, you will fail.
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Old 05-05-2006, 07:13 PM   #11
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how about a subaru brat?!? That would be sweet as a turbo, and the retro factor would surely turn a few heads!!!
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Old 05-05-2006, 07:42 PM   #12
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could go with a '95 L, total sleeper
95 Brighton

Absolute sleeper, ultralight car.
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Old 05-06-2006, 12:28 AM   #13
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Well this plan got shot to sh** today. I had my car appraised at a Subaru dealer, and they told me maybe $1000 for trade in. I'd be lucky to get around $4000 retail. 170,000 miles(got it a 98k in CO), and I still owe just over $6000. So it looks like I'm not selling the car after all.

Damn all that driving I do! 70,000 in 3 years on just THIS car. I also have a truck, bike, and a former second car(that the truck replaced) in the past 3 years. I'm probably over 100,000 miles in the last 3 years between all the vehicles.
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:27 AM   #14
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how much did you pay for that car originally? that seems like a lot, even for a '98.

also you might want to know that with engine swaps, usually the engine has to come from a car that is the same model year, or newer, anything older will automatically fail in a lot of places. you can sometimes get around that by updating all the emissions equipment and running an up-to-date (for your car that is) ECU, but that doesn't always work. i have heard of one guy on So Cal who legally registered and smogged a '98 civic hatch with a '97 JDM B18C5 though, so it's not completely impossible.
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:51 AM   #15
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If I were to get a WRX computer, I could pass emissions fine with this engine. And the engine would run on a WRX computer(though probably not as well as it's stock computer).

And I paid around 11-12K for it, 3 years ago, in Denver. I was kind of in a bind, coming back from overseas. Set up the deal(with the help of some family) over the phone mostly. Came with an extended warranty, that I kind of got duped into. But that's ancient history now...
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Old 05-06-2006, 01:57 AM   #16
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That sucks man, sounds like you're in a situation where its better to keep the car as a beater or something

I've given thought as to what I'm going to do with this car in the long term, figuring I'm probably buying a new car in a year or so. Between the fact that I love the car a lot and that I would only get a few grand selling it, its just not worth it to me to get rid of it, even when I have a new car. Besides, whatever car I get next won't be a wagon so it would always be good to have that versatile hauling capability
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