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Old 05-07-2006, 01:59 PM   #1
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Default OT: Recommend me a better bike (entry level mtn bike)

Looking to get an entry level mountain bike for light trails, fire roads, park trails, etc. Budget is $400. I've found this at a local bike shop for $350 w/lifetime servicing.

Can I do better?

Rockstar Sport (can be had with disc brakes for $100 more, is that worth it?)


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Old 05-07-2006, 03:22 PM   #2
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I take it that's a pretty good bike for the price?
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:26 PM   #3
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hey man, yah its decent. I have a specialized hr comp thats 5 years old and similar. It does well. Lifetime servicing means tuning also right? If so thats excelent, its important to keep it tuned well.

I would go for disk brakes, but thats me. For a first bike its great i think. You don't want to drop the cash on a lighter/fancier bike until you get into the sport.
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:30 PM   #4
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the best bike for $400 is either what you have picked out there or a Trek 4300. The 4300 is actually one of the best shifting bikes if worked on/built.
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Old 05-07-2006, 03:35 PM   #5
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i have the same bike. the hardrock sport is awesome. what size frame are you getting. i had to get the XL because im 6'4
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Old 05-07-2006, 04:35 PM   #6
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I started out with a budget of $400-500 a couple months ago. I ended up spending like $800 when I realized the difference.
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Old 05-07-2006, 11:51 PM   #7
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I wish I could spend $800 on a bike, but right now it's not possible.

I found a Diamondback today with disc brakes for $350. How are DB bikes compared to Specialized? I liked the Specialized more from my uneducated perspective (looks better), but the extra $100 makes it more difficult to swallow than the DB for $350.

The Specialized will come with lifetime tuning though, which might allow me to justify getting that over the DB.

How many people wear/don't wear a helmet when riding?
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:01 AM   #8
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I wish I could spend $800 on a bike, but right now it's not possible.

I found a Diamondback today with disc brakes for $350. How are DB bikes compared to Specialized? I liked the Specialized more from my uneducated perspective (looks better), but the extra $100 makes it more difficult to swallow than the DB for $350.

The Specialized will come with lifetime tuning though, which might allow me to justify getting that over the DB.

How many people wear/don't wear a helmet when riding?
I've never worn a helmet, then again I don't put myself in situations that are beyond my skill level. I'm older and wiser, so if I'm riding where there's traffic w/o a bike lane, then I wear mine. If I'm riding on a dedicated bike path, then I don't wear it.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:10 AM   #9
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www.ridemonkey.com

Tell them I sent you over there, great group of MTB nerds.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:13 AM   #10
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I've never worn a helmet, then again I don't put myself in situations that are beyond my skill level. I'm older and wiser, so if I'm riding where there's traffic w/o a bike lane, then I wear mine. If I'm riding on a dedicated bike path, then I don't wear it.

HAHA great thinking.
I was once riding my bike early in the morning so there was no traffic.
Quiet road no one around and I am riding about 5mph just wandering around.
So no problem right? I never put myself in "situations" right?
I go to cross the road, going very very slowly. Front wheel off the curb then all of a sudden my head hits the pavement. What happened? My front wheel hit a very small almost invisible oil patch from cars that park along the side of the street. My wheel came out and it happend so fast I didn't even have time break my fall. ,I landed square on my head. Thank god I had my helmet on because if I hadn't I would have likely been seriously hurt.
However using your logic there was no reason for a helmet right?
Point being no matter how careful you are s*it happens so dont be a fool and assume that you are so "aware" that you can pick and choose when to be safe.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:33 AM   #11
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Would you consider a used bike? I have had great luck at pawn shops and such for bikes. I have 3 Treks and a Specialized Fatboy and have never spent more than a hundred a bike. I beat them up pretty badly so it makes sense for me.
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:21 AM   #12
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+1 on used at pawn shops.

I always wear a helmet. I have flatted on a corner, helmet saved my head. Also, get a good one with a lot of vents, and it won't seem like such an inconvience. There was an ad I liked "If you have a $10 head, buy a $10 helmet.
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Wear a helmet only if you five a **** about not being a drooling vegetable. You don't have to be a racer to need one. But, it's your brain.

Disc brakes at that price point aren't going to be worth it IMHO. As for DB vs. Specialized, I'd put Specialized a couple of notches ahead of DiamondBack these days in general, but you won't go wrong either way.
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:47 AM   #14
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How many people wear/don't wear a helmet when riding?
Do you wear your seatbelt? Hope so....

Having a helmet on when you actually need one is what's really important. Not knowing WHEN that might be makes wearing a helmet all the time that much more important.
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:57 AM   #15
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+1 on the discs. If you are only going to trail ride and aren't going to do any hard mountain biking then disc brakes are overkill. The real advantage to disc brakes is that they don't tend to get as muddy because they are mounted hear the hub, not at the rim like V breaks. I ride some hard trails through all conditions and my V brakes stop me very well. I would also go for the specialized, but for your needs any of those bikes will do.
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:31 PM   #16
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Sounds like biking has taken the same trend and skiing/snowboarding concerning helmets. 10 years ago you'd hardly see any skiers or boarders with helmets, now-a-days they're the norm. I guess with technology making helmets as good and as affordable as they are now, you'd have to be a dummy not to wear one.

I'll check out a pawn shop or two, I have nothing against buying used.
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Old 05-08-2006, 02:52 PM   #17
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The big thing is that it can be cooler for your head (temperature wise that is) with a helmet on than without. Back in the day it was a piece of insulation covered in plastic. Now they're vented so well that overheating isn't an excuse. Just don't let them talk you in to a $150 helmet.
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Helmets are definitly a must. And from a recent injury i can say gloves and pads are a must for anything but street riding. I crashed due to exaustion and slow reflexes.

Check out Bicycle Johns. My bud Christian works in the one in burbank, but they have one in northridge. is that where you went? Pretty high end stuff but they get a lot of used coming through also.
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I've never worn a helmet, then again I don't put myself in situations that are beyond my skill level. I'm older and wiser, so if I'm riding where there's traffic w/o a bike lane, then I wear mine. If I'm riding on a dedicated bike path, then I don't wear it.
So you have total control over everyone and everything around you? What happens when a dog runs into your spokes? What happen when the little kid suddenly turns into you for no reason? What happens when the drunk driver turns down the bike trail and knocks you off your bike?

There are a multitude of possibilities that you have absolutely no control over. Which is why you should always wear a helmet.
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How many people wear/don't wear a helmet when riding?
Only stupid people.

At the pricepoint you're looking at, disc brakes are definitely not a must have.
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Old 05-08-2006, 05:13 PM   #21
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thanks. I'll get a non-disc bike and will use that money for a helmet. now I just have to figure out which bike.
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Test ride 'em and see if there's anything noticeably different in the way they position you. Bike fit's as important as anything else, and sometimes one brand will fit better than another. Kinda like a brand of shoes fits some better than others.
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Test ride 'em and see if there's anything noticeably different in the way they position you. Bike fit's as important as anything else, and sometimes one brand will fit better than another. Kinda like a brand of shoes fits some better than others.
Yeah. After you get it fit for leg length, see how your upperbody feels. Some bikes have longer top tubes than others. Also the length and rise of the stem (thing holding the handle bars on.) Longer ones give you more room, but make the steering less responsive as you effectively have to move the bars farther to get the same slip angle. Having a bike that turns quickly is great in the tight trails, but gives you more wobbles at speed.
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Wifey and I just got a pair of Trek 3700's for $289 brand new. You could even go up a few levels if your budget is $400. We're happy with them.
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I've only test riden one, the Specialized up top, and it was pretty nice. I'll have to test out a few more before I make my final decision.

perret, I saw your thread about the Treks and I'll definitely check them out.

man, didn't realized how much there is to consider when buying a bike.
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