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Old 05-08-2006, 08:06 AM   #1
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Default Installed Grounding Kit, now battery is dead!!

Guys,
I installed a grounding kit on saturday and last night, my battery was completely dead!!!

I bought a ground kit from Ebay and connected the ends to:
1. Radiator support
2. Rear Engine Block
3. Left side exhaust manifold
4. Right side exhaust manifold
5. Driver side strut tower
6. On the back of the alternator.

I removed the old ground connections and replaced them with connections from the new grounding kit.

The alternator connection has me thinking that this is what caused the battery drain.
There is a long bolt that holds the A/C compressor and the alternator. At the end of the bolt, there is nut that I connected the ground wire to.

Any ideas what caused the dead battery?
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:09 AM   #2
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you hooked to the Negative terminal right?
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:13 AM   #3
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Yup, from the pic, you can see the -ve terminal connector that i put on the -ve battery terminal


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Old 05-08-2006, 10:24 AM   #4
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Take some pictures of your engine bay & wiring and post it.

You either screwed up your wiring somehow, or it's a purely coincidental dead battery.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:44 AM   #5
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i wish i had a camera on hand so i could snap some pics...
The wiring looks pretty normal and is really straightforward...maybe it could have been just concidental as u said....

Now i have to figure out if it was the battery that was old or if the problem is really with the alternator.

When I tried to start my car last night, I turned on the headlights and then started the car...the ignition just made a click and all the lights went off.
I waited a little while, and then when I put the key back in, the instrument cluster came on but I tried to start...everything went off.

I got a jump and the car was idling for about 15-20 mins, then when I turned on my headlights to drive off, the car shut off.

If the alternator was bad, the car wouldn't be idling for 15-20mins right?
Which means the battery is the trouble maker?
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:43 AM   #6
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I'm gonna guess coincidence and just replace the battery.
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Old 05-08-2006, 11:53 AM   #7
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make sure the positive terminal is clean...I hooked up my grounding kit and my car wouldnt start. realized that the terminal was corroded and cleaned it off and it was all good again.
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Old 05-08-2006, 07:16 PM   #8
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So, did you drive the car any in between the kit install and the dead battery? Did the car sit overnight? Give a few more details and we will try our best to help. I'd check the alternator connects, but that's a stab in the dark since I don't have enough important info (like did you drive the car as asked above or did it just sit, etc)...

by the way, do you have a multi-meter? A few measurements can REALLY help...
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Old 05-08-2006, 09:58 PM   #9
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I'd say put the stock grounding wires back on in addition to your upgraded wires.
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Old 05-08-2006, 10:20 PM   #10
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I'd say put the stock grounding wires back on in addition to your upgraded wires.
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I'm gonna guess coincidence and just replace the battery.
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Old 05-09-2006, 10:51 AM   #11
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Play with toys - I did something similar to what you said.
The ground kit I bought off ebay was not designed well.
The roundish plate did not sit completely flush on the -ve terminal vertical post even though how much i tightened it.
This improper connection caused the car to not start intermittently.
I removed the plate and connected the ground wires to the main factory -ve terminal connector with its factory grd wire and now every works great!!

By the way - the grounding kit does really work.
My car is smoother in idle and there is a definite greater pull taking off from the line
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Old 05-09-2006, 11:41 AM   #12
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Glad you got it working! I'd keep the factory connections no matter what anyway. They are a very thick cable, much thicker than most any of those aftermarket ground kits, the other wires are more of a boost than anything.
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