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Old 03-23-2006, 08:54 AM   #8
sonic rx
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Chapter/Region: PRSIC
Location: 430 whp & 400 wtq 22 psi 93oct


Originally Posted by cubuff
Exactly!! Im glad to see I wasnt the only one. Thats why I was thrown off. I was expecting the springs and retainers all to be boxed not thrown into a bag. All springs and retainers I have ever seen have been neatly packed and seperated. I was really expecting cam specs as well and was really dissapointed there wasnt a spec sheet.

Anyway, I will be interested to see what these do. I have a friend running a fp and a hybrid 2.5 wrx stock cams and heads that will dyno the same day I do so it will be really interesting to see side by side numbers. My swap starts April 8th.

What would be cool is to see helix cams vs. crower stg2's in otherwise identical cars. How are these supposed to compare. What power increase are people getting with crower sticks?

what i was beefing about is the fact that when i called gruppe-s they said [quote] um um the specs are on the site[endquote] i said no they are not .i need like a cam card with real specs durations,and all the other vitals.
gruppe-s [quote] what do ya mean?these cams are 264's duration what else is there to know? we have used them with no problems[end quote].
i replied what about at duration at 50 degrees?
gruppe-s [quote] what about it ? i don't think we know that info.let me check......... ok there is none available you should be fine with these i have to go [end quote] now that is great customer care, and they build engines. i guess i should buy one of those to i wonder if they have specs on what they are doing with those they need to pull thier heads out of thier rearends,and get some info.i will never buy from them again,and i will offer this info to who ever asks about them.
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