Originally Posted by HipToBeSquare
If I have to get an automatic...
I might as well buy any other SUV on the market that has a good 5 or 6-speed auto, that isn't a new and specifically un-proven high-torque CVT unit.
I could buy a used Tribeca for less than a new Forester, and have more torque, and VTD AWD, and more amenities than most Foresters.
Or I could go with a Nissan XTerra and get a 6-speed with part-time 4x4, instead of AWD.
Kia Sportage Turbo has more power than even the new Forester XT DIT.
Mazda CX5 certainly looks, and probably drives better.
Mini Paceman is coming out, and looks sleeker, even though the AWD system is inferior. And it likely will offer both Auto and 6-speed.
A truly sporty forester turbo, WRX or Legacy GT specification equivalent, let alone near STI equivalent, would be an easier sell, as I wouldn't have to compromise to cut power, manual, or full-time AWD.
If I have to compromise, I may as well compromise one item or another with any other brand on the market.
Why should I deal with an ugly Subaru, if it is going to technically be compromised, also. Subaru used to be technically spot-on, and overcame their inferior aesthetics. Now they are the same appliance you can buy anywhere else.
For one, You have been around Subaru long enough to know when the last time they had a transmission design fail. It's been a while, hasn't it? Everyone was saying the same thing about the 1st gen Lineartronic when it came out. Did it fail...?
As the guy ahead of me said, Tribeca has 247lb-ft AT 4400rpm vs Forester XTs 258 FROM 2000-5200 rpm. You get a
on that one.
As for the looks. That is all you. I personally like it. The back could be better. I am not a fan of the CX-5, so...
Originally Posted by subyski
At least Subaru is pushing the envelope by developing a high torque CVT that no-one else offers. Sure it may be unproven, but you can say that about any other new technology from any other manufacturer. Heck, just because someone offers a conventional AT, doesn't mean it's good. Not all AT's are made the same.
Nissan Pathfinder......5000lb towing capacity.....
Will it survive? That could be another post....