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Old 02-23-2013, 09:00 PM   #78
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Originally Posted by squirrelmasta View Post
It sucks that Subaru is forgetting why we all have and do buy their cars. If they turn into a Toyota as someone suggested, I'm sure they will make a ton of money. However they don't have the heritage anymore. You don't see soccer moms modifying their vans or logging onto forums to talk about their vans. Sure they meet on weekends but it's not about the van. Stupid kids.

Don't forget where you came from Subaru!
Heritage doesnt just disappear. Toyota has had a much better racing pedrigree than Subaru ever had. They have competed in many different types of racing and when serious about it they were dominant, that includes their efforts in the WRC before they stopped funding teams. Unfortunately they decided to go the route of the family brand and ditch their enthusiasts.

But every once in a while they bring something out to remind us all what they used to be like. The days of sporty cars is nearly dead and gone for Toyota but it seems like they produce one once in a blue moon just because they can.

Supposedly 2018 will be the year the Supra comes back (skeptical about that). Currently they have the GT86. Some can argue those limited edition Series 8 Scions TCs are an option but if you truly want anything sporty from Toyota you need to go with their older models or a lexus if the FR-S isn't your cup of tea.

I honestly would stick with their MR series if I truly wanted to build a track car. Everyone raves about the new FR-S but it seems as if they forgot that there was a convertable that was lighter but less flashy looking that pulled the same performance numbers less than 10 years ago. The MR-S was a boring looking little convertable but go to any autox or track day and watch how quick their times are. They were praised for their incredible handling and were being compared to the Miata and S2K in that department. All you really needed in them was a retuned 2ZZ celica GTS swap with a 6 speed and the car was complete, unfortunately toyota didn't deem it necessary to do what in the end would have been the icing on the cake.

Cars to look up.
RWD Corollas/ FWD GT (Jspec) and XRS models
RWD/AWD Celicas
Last gen Celica GTS (one of the best handling FWD cars ever produced)
F Sport models

They may have almost completely turned their backs on enthusiasts who arent loaded but they do throw us a bone once in a while and what they offered in the past were some incredibly awesome vehicle that if you really want you can probably find.
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