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Old 11-04-2020, 12:20 PM   #48
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Originally Posted by Norm Peterson View Post
No, there's no need to re-invent this wheel . . . err, terminology. Either a transmission has the capability to shift for itself (is automated) or it doesn't (manual). It's that simple.

I really don't care if you want to make further distinctions among the various transmissions that do have self-shifting capability as long as you accept the fact that they're all basically automatics. Differences in detail, not type.

I just don't understand any reluctance to categorizing AMTs or DSGs as automatics, especially given the widespread acceptance of automatics generally.

That Kia device isn't anything new. It appears to be at least functionally similar to Porsche's 'Sportomatic' transmission (ca. 1967). I'll take your word for it that gear selection is completely up to the driver, which puts it (and the Sportomatic) in the manual transmission category. Also in the MT category are dog-shifted gearboxes where you really only need to use the clutch pedal to get the vehicle rolling (Jerico in the circle track world, Eaton for the 18-wheeler gang).

Yep agree.

I think it's likely people who don't want to feel "sitgmatized" for driving an auto...
Hey, I don't drive an automatic. I drive a DSG!
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