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Old 11-04-2020, 06:29 PM   #50
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As long as Subaru continues to be dedicated to the CVT transmission, I will probably not be purchasing any automatic Subaru vehicles. Our last purchase was a 2017 RAV4 (non-hybrid), because I just couldn't commit to the CVT in the Subaru alternatives. Its not just Subaru for me, any manufacturer with a CVT as their sole automatic option, I just won't consider it.

I was reluctant to look into the hybrid version of the RAV4 due to its CVT although the performance is better than the standard model and I am sure the electric motor assists enough from a stop to make up for the CVT...I kind of regret it...but its time again to purchase another vehicle and as much as I like the Outback...the CVT is almost haunting the brand.

Nissan and Subaru have had complaints with their CVT units over the years and I'd much rather have a traditional automatic with more gears. We have an 04 RAV4 with over 316k miles, although it has its share of oil leaks and runs strong and just won't die (although it probably will now, since I said that.)...we will probably be going back to Toyota again and its not exactly my first preference, but I bring up this vehicle because it makes it easier to go back.

Even Toyota saw a need to couple a traditional first gear with their CVT in the Corolla...the performance impact from a stop is clear to Toyota, that's why they did it...I also have concerns about reliability but I understand all manufacturers can have a component fail prematurely for various reasons...even so...the CVT premature failures and problems involving various brands especially with vehicles being used for towing also seems to be a clear longevity issue.
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