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Old 12-10-2018, 11:41 PM   #452
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Originally Posted by XanRules View Post
So, I'm seeing more and more people complaining about the "NASIOC mentality" where "everyone hates everything."
I've been thinking about it, and I think I've found the root of the problem.
There are many written rules, but there are also a number of unwritten rules of etiquette that need to be addressed. When these rules aren't followed, flaming occurs and people get their feelings hurt. There is no secret council of old members who try to follow you around and make you feel bad about yourself, there are simply a lot of people on this website who get very tired of running into the same problems over and over again.

Following these seven-and-a-half simple rules will ensure that you get the most out of your car and your forum experience.

1. Use Proper Punctuation and Grammar.
NASIOC is an English-language forum. This isn't difficult to figure out, either. Fact is, people are less inclined to help you if you seem like a fool. Typing things out correctly is very easy, even on a tiny little cellphone keyboard. Most internet browsers have a "spell check" feature. Please use it. If you expect help from people, please do them the courtesy of making your posts clear and concise.
This is very, very hard to understand:

Side note: the period key "." is not your space bar.

We've all seen posts that look like this.
Stop doing that. I'm going to start pointing out offenders by name soon. You know who you are.

2. Be Wise With the Search Function.
It really is better to start a new thread about an issue or question you have than to bump a thread from 2004. If anyone tells you to "SEARCH N00B!!!!!1!" it's because your question has been asked within the past week, or because the person telling you to search has an itch they can't scratch in public, making them cranky.
...(what, that doesn't happen to you guys?)

3. Ask Technical Questions in the Appropriate Forums.
The "Newbies" forum is a bad place to ask technical questions, due to the fact that it's full of, you guessed it - newbies. People who know as little about the car as you do.
In the past week, I've heard the following.
"HID Kits are okay as long as you paint your headlights black."
"Subarus can't be driven under 30 degrees."
"The plastic intake manifold on the new WRX absorbs heat and tends to crack if you're not running an aftermarket radiator."
"You can run whatever size spacer you want without any sort of fender work."
All of these statements are complete and obvious crap. The technical forums, found here: are much better suited to helping you with any problems you may have with your car.
However, that comes with a little bit of a caveat: I will venture a guess that 90% of the people on this website do not have a ****ing clue what they're talking about. Let me reiterate with a more concrete guess: easily more than half of the people giving advice here have no ****ing clue what they're talking about. Absolutely no clue. It's best to take peoples' suggestions with a grain of salt. Speaking of which...

4. Don't Pretend to Know More Than You Do.
The people who made the above statements thought they were entirely correct. Please note that people listed as "Scooby Newbie," "Scooby Specialist," and "Scooby Guru" are classified only by post counts, not actual knowledge. If you're like some members here, myself included, you probably got to that number by calling people idiots on a regular basis. Please try to figure out who you're taking your advice from. Credibility isn't hard to reason out. If the person telling you which oil to run has a bunch of threads on blowing their motors, you probably shouldn't take their advice.
Similarly, if someone who knows more than you - in this case it was Unabomber, but it also applies to people like Uncle Scotty, Davenow, etc - corrects you, don't do something like this:
Because that's not a good way to make friends.
Similarly, respect your elders and your moderators.

5. Stay Out of OT.
Until you have a very, very firm grasp on the rest of these rules, do not ever go to the Off-Topic section of this forum.
Actually, it's crowded in there. Don't go in. Seriously. You'll get your feelings hurt and there's a lot of people in there. I'm not even kidding, man.
Too many people complain about how mean everyone here is - well, yeah. That's like going to a biker bar, getting your ass beat in a bar fight, and saying that people are all horrible and that motorcycles make people into tools of Satan.
This works nicely between rules 4 and 6, because, it is just the internet. Be respectful, keep a low profile, and don't step on anyone's toes, especially if you're thin-skinned.

6. We're All Friends Here, But...
Even friends disagree. If someone says they don't like the way you modified your car, or if someone informs you you're doing something incorrectly or illegally, do not respond like the person mentioned in point number four. There is no rule that says we all have to like each others' cars. We're here as a community to shoot the **** and talk about cars. Please do not PM people death threats if you don't like their opinion. Similarly, please do not spend five pages of a thread talking about how you want to do socially unacceptable things to their exhaust.

7. Take the Advice People Give You.
I see far too many threads that go like this.
OP: "Hey guys, my car isn't working, I'm throwing the following codes and recently did the following modifications, what should I do to fix it?"
Helper: "Do x, y, and z."
OP: "Okay, I did a, b, and c, and it still isn't working, should I maybe try doing d and e?"
Helper: "Do x, y, and z. Seriously."
OP: "Okay, well, that didn't work, but, I tried doing r, l, and q..."
Helper: "Did you do x, y, and z?"
OP: "no, but I just tried m, pi, and tractor."

For the love of God, if you ask for help, please take it. Oh, and be sure to give us all the information. About half the time, that thread will end like this:
OP: "Oh, I forgot to mention I just changed my timing belt in sub-zero temperatures with a hammer"
which is, of course, causing the problem.

A rare example of ALL OF THESE RULES BEING BROKEN AT ONCE can be found here:

As it stands, we now have 7 1/2 good tips for noobs.
This will ensure that you have a long, happy, healthy internet career here at the North American Subaru Impreza Owners Club. I may or may not add more as time goes on.
👍nice write up
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