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Old 09-06-2019, 05:20 PM   #845
Representexas
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Join Date: May 2006
Chapter/Region: TXIC
Location: San Antonio
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Originally Posted by WRXnick16 View Post

S209 - Car and Driver estimates:
$65k (before markup)
341 hp (how long has the EJ been around?)
0-60 mph: mid 4s
1/4-mile: high 12s/low13s

We'll start with competitors at half the price..

2017 Civic Type R
$36k (before markup)
306 hp
0-60 mph: 5.0 sec
1/4-mile: 13.6 sec

2016 Focus RS
$36k (before markup)
350 hp
0-60: 4.5 sec
1/4-mile: 13.4 sec

2018 Mustang GT
$37k (no markup)
460 hp
0-60: 3.9 sec
1/4-mile: 12.1 sec

Cars closer in price, but still noticeably less:

2019 M2 Competition (yep, the M3 & M4 are also faster & still cheaper)
$60k (no markup)
405 hp
0-60: 3.9 sec
1/4-mile: 12.4 sec

2020 Supra
$50k (before markup)
"335 hp" - underrated and closer to 385 hp
0-60: 3.8 sec
1/4-mile: 12.3 sec

2020 Corvette (base model)
$59k (before markup)
495 hp
0-60 mph: 2.9 sec
1/4 mile: 11.3 sec
Using dollar value and quarter mile times alone..sure great list.

Now let's drill down a little deeper as to not be biased.

Redo your list. But include:

4 doors.

All wheel drive.

Accessible self maintenance

Strong parts catalog (both aftermarket and replacement parts)

Limited to under 500 and numbered

Manual option

Exceptional safety rating

Strong resell value

The S209 is a niche of a niche. This is not a car that can have performance value determined by speed and cost alone. Just as with my Type RA. There are many...many people who love to tell me how "they" would have spent that money. And it normally does come down to "modding" their wrx to be faster than my Type RA. Which is a fair argument...for that kind of buyer. Anyone seriously looking at the S209...like the RA... will see value far beyond just the factors you used to determine it's competitors.

I am still on the fense but for me it's between keeping my RA (which I love) buying the S209 ( which I also love) or potentially looking at the new vette. The 2 doors, lack of a manual, lack of AWD and the fact that there will be one on every street corner makes that the least attractive option for me right now.
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