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Old 11-02-2020, 09:45 AM   #44
Norm Peterson
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'19 WRX Ltd 6M dgm
'08 Mustang GT (the toy)


Originally Posted by SoCoNoHa View Post
You're correct I've never driven those older automatics, I believe what you say about them. I assumed you meant the stigma of autos in general vs manuals, not older autos vs newer.
First impressions probably have a lot to do with it no matter who you are. For me, automatics started out being clearly the inferior choice for performance. Perhaps as a direct consequence, the whole mindlessness of just slapping the thing in 'D' and going became quite clear. So for me, it ends up being some of each, MT > AT generally, and that my attitude toward the ATs of today is already somewhat biased because of my experience with the ATs of the past.

Intellectually I do understand that they've gotten quite good. But they're still a poor fit for me individually. And FWIW, there's at least one respect in which today's ATs have devolved from some of the early ones. The older Chrysler Torqueflite and Powerflite transmissions could be push/pop-started if the battery was too weak to start the engine on its starter. I think you could do the same with some of the early Ford ATs as well.

I generally don't view automatics in a favorable light(did you mean compared to your view? We're probably pretty close!), I will always rather drive a standard. There are exceptions; I drove an older BMW 530 auto, and actually liked it. I'd still prefer the manual version though.
Let me put it this way . . . I don't think I've ever liked having my car's transmission do any of its own shifting. Not even 50 years or so ago when I ended up having to drive cars with automatics because they were the only cars that were available to me (no surprise that I ended up manually shifting them most of the time). I've always hated those 'forced' downshifts caused by using the gas pedal. If I want a lower gear, I'll put the lever there and do my own rev-matching (yes, this is possible even with an AT).

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